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Some things that are not making it into the media, yet.

1) Russia paid for the port.

2) Ukraine was playing keep-away, trying to choke Russia.

3) They were doing this because Ukraine was effectively controlled by a cabal of three crime syndicates that are attempting to subvert the sovereignty of all of earths nations.

4) This cabal has no loyalty to the Ukrainian people.

5) This cabal is responsible for unspeakable crimes against humanity.

6) This cabal has been punking the US for decades.

7) So far Russia is the only nation on earth to stand up to the pedo cannibal cock suckers that are trying to enslave the rest of us.
 

We have become world champions in sanctions, overtaking the former leader, Iran. The United States and the European Union have put all their cards on the table, blowing up even those mines that cause more damage to them than to us.

For example, I will point to the freezing of the dollar and euro parts of our reserves. We have lost 300 billion dollars, which we will save up again in about a year. The US and the EU have lost reputation as an arbitrary default on the dollar and euro automatically triggers the withdrawal of dollars and euros from the category of reserve currencies.

The so-called "paper" (fiat) money is, in fact, just a receipt, a promise to deliver goods sometime in the future. Imagine you are bringing Sam a wagon of manure. Sam writes you a receipt: I, Sam Smith, passport such and such, residing there, undertake to give Vasily an iPhone 14 in perfect condition. The next day, after shaving, you come to Sam for an iPhone. And Sam says to you - Russian ship, get out of here before I draw a sexual organ on my receipt.

That's what happened to dollars and euros. The whole village saw that Sam's receipts were unreliable, since Sam did not keep his merchant's word.

Americans and Europeans would not be so hurt if the ruble collapsed. They have already frozen the gold reserves of other countries - Iran, Venezuela, Syria. Investors were very annoyed by this, since investors are not fools, but the situation was still different: both the amounts were small on a global scale, and the financial systems of the attacked countries were crumpled into an accordion after the attack of the Americans. Freezing the gold reserves of small unrequited countries was perceived not as a scam, but as aggression, an arbitrary manifestation of force. Investors were willing to put up with this.

But the ruble did not collapse after the American attack. Right now I am writing this post, and the ruble is trading at around 83 rubles, which is not much higher than the October 79 rubles per dollar, and which is even lower than the peak high that the dollar jumped to in the midst of the 2014-2015 currency crisis. In fact, we bought for these 300 billion dollars stolen from us a unique historical opportunity to create our own reserve currency, the energy ruble. Perhaps it was worth it and without any sanctions.

The Americans, on the other hand, turned out to be the unlucky hunter from the joke, who slipped a double-barreled shotgun into the den. The hunter wanted to shoot the sleeping bear and pulled the trigger, but the gun misfired and the bear woke up...

So, the US and the EU have already used almost all of their financial and economic weapons against Russia. Then only refuse fuel, but here the game is not at all in their favor: it's like trying to bite through a car wheel with your teeth. Actually, that's why Western politicians are now fighting in such hysteria. Russia is a problem that is destroying their financial system and that they cannot solve.

The main reason why the West has found itself in such an unenviable situation is the natural change of our world. In the 21st century, the once mighty West put on a leather harness and decorated its ass with multi-colored feathers, and the East, led by China, gradually took the industrial and technological leadership from the West.

Let's see how high-tech exports from different countries have changed over the years:

1990 The USA is the leader, Japan is the second, Germany is the third. China is not even in the top ten.
2004 China is the leader, the US is in second place by a small margin, Germany and Japan are just behind the US. The gap between first and fourth place is small.
2019 year. China leader. Germany is in second place, 3.5 (!) times behind. Singapore is third. The United States is in fourth place, behind China by about 5 times. China's high-tech exports are higher than all the top ten Western countries combined.
People are very inert, especially adults, so Western politicians still mentally live there, in the middle of the 2000s, when the US and China fought on equal terms. However, 15 years have already passed, and the United States has lagged behind completely, hopelessly. They are kept afloat only by the inertia of the dollar, which before the February default was a full-fledged reserve currency.

Have you heard of Wenzhou? Show it on the map? I'm sure not. In short, recently Wenzhou was considered backward, there was even the term "poor Wenzhou". Now, thanks to life-giving capitalism, Wenzhou is flourishing. There are a lot of factories of various industries - for example, the city is a world center for the production of low-voltage equipment.

Here's a 1.5-hour video for you - just driving a car through the streets of Wenzhou, no parade shooting from a quadrocopter of freshly built skyscrapers and other varnished pictures for tourists. This is how the most ordinary person sees the city every day.

Once again, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that by Chinese standards Wenzhou is a small town, a backwater, a regional center of the provincial province of Zhejiang. 9.5 million people is a trifle by Chinese standards, almost a village. Zhejiang Semir Garment clothing company (Semir and Balabala brands, which you don’t fucking know, unlike Dolce and Gabbana), Aima shoe company, General Electric and Schneider Electric electrical appliance factories (yes, yes, it’s all from there), are based in Wenzhou), steel plant of Shagang Group. They even launched the subway three years ago.

And for comparison, Brussels, the capital of NATO.

With all my love for the historical streets of old cities, this is a hopeless province. The United States and the European Union are no longer at the level that would allow them to hope for competition with Asia.

And now we were looking only at China, while there is also India, whose population is almost equal to that of China, and where high technologies are now developing at a very high pace. In the West, it is customary to joke about India in the traditional formats of toilet humor. However, India is big, it has about 5 million programmers alone. And since everything is in order with the brains of the Indians, quantity inevitably turns into quality.

But there is also Indonesia with a population of 280 million people. Pakistan - 230 million. Brazil - 210 million ... and in every country now there is the Internet, there is access to education, there are opportunities for building factories and laboratories. The West considers itself "the whole world" only because it has not yet received a sufficiently sensitive punch on the nose.

It just so happened that Russia is now giving him this click: with the rear support of Asia, Africa and Latin America. And the West can do absolutely nothing with us, since it also lags behind us in terms of the number of nuclear warheads.

We do not have as many nuclear weapons as in Soviet times, but enough to drive the United States into the Stone Age if necessary. Therefore, the United States fidgets in a chair, bites its nails, shouts curses ... but still does not cross certain boundaries.

America's position looks hopeless. China is preparing to crush the United States economically, and there is little chance of détente, since the West has been behaving absolutely bestially towards China in recent centuries, and since the West clearly will not begin to think about its behavior until it suffers a full-fledged, devastating defeat. The West cannot inflict critical damage on China, since for this it is necessary to isolate China from Russia, which is technically impossible - we have a common land border with China. We supply China with food and hydrocarbons, this is quite enough for an economic victory over the United States, no matter what blockades the United States undertakes. There is no way to destroy Russia first, and then China - militarily, Russia is too strong, and the Americans failed to drive a wedge between Russia and China.

Perhaps, if the Americans had not been so aggressive, if they had not moved NATO bases to the east, if they had not tirelessly fomented revolutions and civil wars on the territory of the former USSR, their hegemony could have lasted a little longer.

However, to live peacefully is not about Americans. They are stupid, arrogant and greedy. The United States went to aggravate the conflict with the East and, it seems, lost.

PS. Remember, I told you that we will become the tip of the Chinese spear directed at the heart of the West? And you all bummed that they say why is Russia, la-la-la. Well, as you can see, it was not possible to get away from this role. Geography is fate.

How Putin tried to establish friendship with Europe, offered them all sorts of options that would be beneficial for them - but no, it did not take off. Even the Germans, logical and thoughtful people who calculate everything in the world on a calculator - and they were not able to step over the general European Russophobia.

Europe has chosen its fate. And chose fate for Russia. What you are seeing now is the death of Europe. Even if it does not come to nuclear strikes on industrial centers, Europe is doomed. In a situation where European industry is left without cheap Russian energy sources and raw materials - and China will begin to receive these same energy carriers and raw materials at a discount, there can be no talk of any real competition with China from Europe. As a result, literally everything will collapse there - after industry, agriculture will collapse, welfare and social security will collapse, hunger, banditry and chaos will begin. I don’t even believe that the transition to Nazism will be able to save these states - the decay has gone too far, too many parasites have come in on European benefits, they have successfully gobbled up and ruined their countries, they will ruin European ones too.

And in everything the Europeans will blame the Russians. Therefore, they will climb on us, get hit in the face, wash themselves with blood - and climb again. At a certain stage, things will come to the vitrification of some European capitals, as well as to the sinking of the "island of villains" below the water level in the French channel - they are stupid, they will not calm down in a good way. History teaches that it does not teach anyone anything.

Nobody cares about Ukraine. Ukraine is just a place where Russia decided to fight Europe. Do not wait until they come to us, but finally implement the concept of "little bloodshed in foreign territory." It’s a pity for the crests, but they themselves are to blame - they really wanted to serve the Eurogays, and now they did.

By the way, Europe fully accepted the proposed conditions and came to the war - now the Czech Republic is shipping about 100 T-72 and BMP-1 tanks from its stocks to the Ukraine, now they are being transported on railway platforms. This, by the way, is not bad for us - we have a chance to destroy most of this on the road, the rest of it will screw up and break, and NATO will lose another thousand tanks. This is the meaning of this war.

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Van_der_Voort_4 said:

We have become world champions in sanctions, overtaking the former leader, Iran. The United States and the European Union have put all their cards on the table, blowing up even those mines that cause more damage to them than to us.

For example, I will point to the freezing of the dollar and euro parts of our reserves. We have lost 300 billion dollars, which we will save up again in about a year. The US and the EU have lost reputation as an arbitrary default on the dollar and euro automatically triggers the withdrawal of dollars and euros from the category of reserve currencies.

The so-called "paper" (fiat) money is, in fact, just a receipt, a promise to deliver goods sometime in the future. Imagine you are bringing Sam a wagon of manure. Sam writes you a receipt: I, Sam Smith, passport such and such, residing there, undertake to give Vasily an iPhone 14 in perfect condition. The next day, after shaving, you come to Sam for an iPhone. And Sam says to you - Russian ship, get out of here before I draw a sexual organ on my receipt.

That's what happened to dollars and euros. The whole village saw that Sam's receipts were unreliable, since Sam did not keep his merchant's word.

Americans and Europeans would not be so hurt if the ruble collapsed. They have already frozen the gold reserves of other countries - Iran, Venezuela, Syria. Investors were very annoyed by this, since investors are not fools, but the situation was still different: both the amounts were small on a global scale, and the financial systems of the attacked countries were crumpled into an accordion after the attack of the Americans. Freezing the gold reserves of small unrequited countries was perceived not as a scam, but as aggression, an arbitrary manifestation of force. Investors were willing to put up with this.

But the ruble did not collapse after the American attack. Right now I am writing this post, and the ruble is trading at around 83 rubles, which is not much higher than the October 79 rubles per dollar, and which is even lower than the peak high that the dollar jumped to in the midst of the 2014-2015 currency crisis. In fact, we bought for these 300 billion dollars stolen from us a unique historical opportunity to create our own reserve currency, the energy ruble. Perhaps it was worth it and without any sanctions.

The Americans, on the other hand, turned out to be the unlucky hunter from the joke, who slipped a double-barreled shotgun into the den. The hunter wanted to shoot the sleeping bear and pulled the trigger, but the gun misfired and the bear woke up...

So, the US and the EU have already used almost all of their financial and economic weapons against Russia. Then only refuse fuel, but here the game is not at all in their favor: it's like trying to bite through a car wheel with your teeth. Actually, that's why Western politicians are now fighting in such hysteria. Russia is a problem that is destroying their financial system and that they cannot solve.

The main reason why the West has found itself in such an unenviable situation is the natural change of our world. In the 21st century, the once mighty West put on a leather harness and decorated its ass with multi-colored feathers, and the East, led by China, gradually took the industrial and technological leadership from the West.

Let's see how high-tech exports from different countries have changed over the years:

1990 The USA is the leader, Japan is the second, Germany is the third. China is not even in the top ten.
2004 China is the leader, the US is in second place by a small margin, Germany and Japan are just behind the US. The gap between first and fourth place is small.
2019 year. China leader. Germany is in second place, 3.5 (!) times behind. Singapore is third. The United States is in fourth place, behind China by about 5 times. China's high-tech exports are higher than all the top ten Western countries combined.
People are very inert, especially adults, so Western politicians still mentally live there, in the middle of the 2000s, when the US and China fought on equal terms. However, 15 years have already passed, and the United States has lagged behind completely, hopelessly. They are kept afloat only by the inertia of the dollar, which before the February default was a full-fledged reserve currency.

Have you heard of Wenzhou? Show it on the map? I'm sure not. In short, recently Wenzhou was considered backward, there was even the term "poor Wenzhou". Now, thanks to life-giving capitalism, Wenzhou is flourishing. There are a lot of factories of various industries - for example, the city is a world center for the production of low-voltage equipment.

Here's a 1.5-hour video for you - just driving a car through the streets of Wenzhou, no parade shooting from a quadrocopter of freshly built skyscrapers and other varnished pictures for tourists. This is how the most ordinary person sees the city every day.

Once again, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that by Chinese standards Wenzhou is a small town, a backwater, a regional center of the provincial province of Zhejiang. 9.5 million people is a trifle by Chinese standards, almost a village. Zhejiang Semir Garment clothing company (Semir and Balabala brands, which you don’t fucking know, unlike Dolce and Gabbana faggots), Aima shoe company, General Electric and Schneider Electric electrical appliance factories (yes, yes, it’s all from there), are based in Wenzhou), steel plant of Shagang Group. They even launched the subway three years ago.

And for comparison, Brussels, the capital of NATO butchers.

With all my love for the historical streets of old cities, this is a hopeless province. The United States and the European Union are no longer at the level that would allow them to hope for competition with Asia.

And now we were looking only at China, while there is also India, whose population is almost equal to that of China, and where high technologies are now developing at a very high pace. In the West, it is customary to joke about India in the traditional formats of toilet humor. However, India is big, it has about 5 million programmers alone. And since everything is in order with the brains of the Indians, quantity inevitably turns into quality.

But there is also Indonesia with a population of 280 million people. Pakistan - 230 million. Brazil - 210 million ... and in every country now there is the Internet, there is access to education, there are opportunities for building factories and laboratories. The West considers itself "the whole world" only because it has not yet received a sufficiently sensitive punch on the nose.

It just so happened that Russia is now giving him this click: with the rear support of Asia, Africa and Latin America. And the West can do absolutely nothing with us, since it also lags behind us in terms of the number of nuclear warheads.

We do not have as many nuclear weapons as in Soviet times, but enough to drive the United States into the Stone Age if necessary. Therefore, the United States fidgets in a chair, bites its nails, shouts curses ... but still does not cross certain boundaries.

America's position looks hopeless. China is preparing to crush the United States economically, and there is little chance of détente, since the West has been behaving absolutely bestially towards China in recent centuries, and since the West clearly will not begin to think about its behavior until it suffers a full-fledged, devastating defeat. The West cannot inflict critical damage on China, since for this it is necessary to isolate China from Russia, which is technically impossible - we have a common land border with China. We supply China with food and hydrocarbons, this is quite enough for an economic victory over the United States, no matter what blockades the United States undertakes. There is no way to destroy Russia first, and then China - militarily, Russia is too strong, and the Americans failed to drive a wedge between Russia and China.

Perhaps, if the Americans had not been so aggressive, if they had not moved NATO bases to the east, if they had not tirelessly fomented revolutions and civil wars on the territory of the former USSR, their hegemony could have lasted a little longer.

However, to live peacefully is not about Americans. They are stupid, arrogant and greedy. The United States went to aggravate the conflict with the East and, it seems, lost.

PS. Remember, I told you that we will become the tip of the Chinese spear directed at the heart of the West? And you all bummed that they say why is Russia, la-la-la. Well, as you can see, it was not possible to get away from this role. Geography is fate.

How Putin tried to establish friendship with Europe, offered them all sorts of options that would be beneficial for them - but no, it did not take off. Even the Germans, logical and thoughtful people who calculate everything in the world on a calculator - and they were not able to step over the general European Russophobia.

Europe has chosen its fate. And chose fate for Russia. What you are seeing now is the death of Europe. Even if it does not come to nuclear strikes on industrial centers, Europe is doomed. In a situation where European industry is left without cheap Russian energy sources and raw materials - and China will begin to receive these same energy carriers and raw materials at a discount, there can be no talk of any real competition with China from Europe. As a result, literally everything will collapse there - after industry, agriculture will collapse, welfare and social security will collapse, hunger, banditry and chaos will begin. I don’t even believe that the transition to Nazism will be able to save these states - the decay has gone too far, too many parasites have come in on European benefits, they have successfully gobbled up and ruined their countries, they will ruin European ones too.

And in everything the Europeans will blame the Russians. Therefore, they will climb on us, get hit in the face, wash themselves with blood - and climb again. At a certain stage, things will come to the vitrification of some European capitals, as well as to the sinking of the "island of villains" below the water level in the French channel - they are stupid, they will not calm down in a good way. History teaches that it does not teach anyone anything.

Nobody cares about Ukraine. Ukraine is just a place where Russia decided to fight Europe. Do not wait until they come to us, but finally implement the concept of "little bloodshed in foreign territory." It’s a pity for the crests, but they themselves are to blame - they really wanted to serve the Eurogays, and now they did.

By the way, Europe fully accepted the proposed conditions and came to the war - now the Czech Republic is shipping about 1000 T-72 and BMP-1 tanks from its stocks to the Ukraine, now they are being transported on railway platforms. This, by the way, is not bad for us - we have a chance to destroy most of this on the road, the rest of it will screw up and break, and NATO will lose another thousand tanks. This is the meaning of this war.

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QUOTE="bookish, post: 5572772, member: 497923"]Some things that are not making it into the media, yet.

1) Russia paid for the port.
A source or at least more detailed information is needed here.

2) Ukraine was playing keep-away, trying to choke Russia.
Again, statements without support are near meaningless.

3) They were doing this because Ukraine was effectively controlled by a cabal of three crime syndicates that are attempting to subvert the sovereignty of all of earths nations.
While I have similar thoughts, am conflicted on what is the best, sustainable allocation of power among the various political philosophies. Each has strengths and weaknesses. This competition for power can be risky on many levels. However, the consolidation of power can be long term stifling.

4) This cabal has no loyalty to the Ukrainian people.
I disagree to a certain extent. Using the Russia-Ukrainian War as an example, it is not really about Ukraine. It is about the US and to a lesser degree, NATO. It is about one political philosophy attempting to gain an advantage over another. Behind all the propaganda, calling or characterizing things one thing but really meaning another, a simple way to understand politics and the Russia-Ukrainian War is to follow the flows of money and power. By money, I’m including resources such as people, AKA, refugees. Refugees have productive capacity and depending on country’s policies they end up in, voting power. This voting power, especially when it tends to be polarized, has the ability to enhance the influence of the political philosophy taking the initiative. The countries losing population would need to be compensated in some way to maintain their economic, among other things, status quo. The withdrawal of US and NATO companies, including loss of equity interest in various ventures plus the earnings potential over time represents trillions of dollars. In other words, Russia is being effectively compensated, as will Ukraine for war cost and loss of population due to the people of both countries seeking opportunities elsewhere by the West.

As far as Russian and Ukrainian casualties, the powers that be may view that as an acceptable sacrifice for the larger picture. Besides, many Russians and Ukrainians who move to the West will likely enjoy a higher standard of living than the countries they left.

I could be wrong, but certain timelines, magnitude of events, and a seemingly key private meeting between a third party and Russia does give some credence to a deep fake. While the extent of the West’s reaction was miscalculated, the gamble of doubling down looks like it will payoff hugely for the cabal. The power of the media and wokeness in this apparent historic level deep fake cannot be understated.

There are solid, timely benefits to the strengthening of the powers pulling the strings. These benefits are lower risk of global war and greater focus on our environment. Downsides include increased risks of civil unrest and long term declines in productivity, further reducing people’s perceived quality of life they may have grown accustomed to.

I could be more specific, much more specific, but I am undecided which system is most sustainable. In addition, the cabal in question is decisively made up by the smartest people in the room. Should not the smartest be in charge of most of the resources? Or should it be the historically most productive?


5) This cabal is responsible for unspeakable crimes against humanity.
Throughout history and modern times, all centralized entities have blood on their hands. At least in the modern world, it seems to have been tempered somewhat. At the least, living people are considered to have economic value, if nothing else.

6) This cabal has been punking the US for decades.
Yes, from lobbyists adversely affecting legislation at the expense of regular citizens to the political exploitation of “Crises”, all the cabals have been actively attempting to increase their political power. It would be interesting to follow the flow of money regarding the Covid crises as a case study.

7) So far Russia is the only nation on earth to stand up to the pedo cannibal cock suckers that are trying to enslave the rest of us.[/QUOTE
Russia is no saint and Putin is certainly not a dummy. However, I wonder to what extent Putin’s power really is. For all the resources, for all the smart people, for all the focus of leadership, for all the land, Russia is grossly underperforming her economic potential. It is systemic related to their politics. Therefore, I believe Putin is not the full force and weight of the cabal in question.

If we as a global society could find a way to take the strengths of each major political philosophy and throw away the weak parts, we could greatly accelerate our development as a species. Actually, I believe each political philosophy can excel during very specific conditions involving the human species, both externally (Major event) and internally (Current Demographics and culture).

In some ways, politics always seems to be evolving, but at its core, stays the same.
For most people, time may be better spent on increasing their own capabilities rather than complaining about the lack of capabilities of their leaders.



 
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