Ukraine on the brink of collapse, $113 Billion Down the Drain, THANKS BIDEN

mervyn · Dec 13, 2023

Cuddles said:
Taiwan wants a shot at Ukraine's record?

will run out of toilet paper worldwide.

wildchild · Dec 13, 2023

Snuskpelle said:
First, Ukraine isn't collapsing, that's the Russian narrative in an attempt to A) cut support, B) make westerners put pressure on Ukraine to give away their territory. Nonetheless, cut funding from the biggest financial backer would of course be a massive blow.

Second, last I checked, members of the Rep party are blocking the Ukraine funding.

Third, Ukraine uses American support to buy American supplies. Meaning it is essentially a job subsidy for Americans, with fewer unemployed in the US than would otherwise be the case.

Ukraine is a war that the US (and Europe) will easily help Ukraine win, if we want to, as we have a massively larger economy than Russia. This is far worse situation than the Afghanistan for Russia with the toll closing in on half a million dead and wounded Russians fast. Defeatists and Kremlin puppets however are of course trying to do their best to sink western support. And it's honestly depressing to see the number of idiots running their errands.

Show some pride of your country, the US is still the mightiest nation in the world, and unlike the shit wars it got involved in since the 90s this one is actually worth fighting for, because we have all the moral right here to save Ukraine from genocide. (I say we because as a European we are allies after all.) And winning this prevents further wars, when nobody lifts a finger it encourages dictatorships everywhere to invade their neighbors.

So everything that does not fit the Democrats narrative is Russian disinformation. Are we seriously still playing that game again? How many times do you have to be told the same lie before you wake up?

Is the NYT part of Putin's disinformation campaign?

U.S. and Ukraine Search for a New Strategy After Failed Counteroffensive
President Volodymyr Zelensky arrived in Washington at a critical moment, both on the battlefield and on Capitol Hill.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/us/politics/us-ukraine-war-strategy.html

So the war in Ukraine is nothing more than a jobs program. Is this a joke? Have you looked at the inner cities of most American cities. The are smoking craters of failed leftist policies. The money would be better spent in US cities than half-way across the world.

Not only that, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Do we really think the money is being used to help every day people? Look at the failure in Afghanistan for a case study of utter faiure.

Democrat Utopia

Ukraine is a war Europe can easily win? It can go as well as Iraq were iraqi citizens are going to greet the Americas with flowers.

CHENEY: Now, I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. [3/16/03]

It is a European problem and up to Europeans to solve. The whole, this will prevent other wars is another failed narrative that is over 100 years old. Maybe we can even drum up support for the war in Ukraine by saying it is 'The war to end all wars', because those words rang so true in the past.

newwurldmn · Dec 23, 2023

mervyn said:
this century just started, wait until the war with china… if dc has so many bedevils.

and this Ukraine war might have shaped geo politics for the next 80 years.

Spike Trader · Dec 23, 2023

Snuskpelle said:
First, Ukraine isn't collapsing, that's the Russian narrative in an attempt to A) cut support, B)

Show some pride of your country, the US is still the mightiest nation in the world, and unlike the shit wars it got involved in since the 90s this one is actually worth fighting for, because we have all the moral right here to save Ukraine from genocide. (I say we because as a European we are allies after all.) And winning this prevents further wars, when nobody lifts a finger it encourages dictatorships everywhere to invade their neighbors.

How can Putin lose when he had the Greatest Commander in Chief in history standing right behind him...

wildchild · Dec 23, 2023

Spike Trader said:
How can Putin lose when he had the Greatest Commander in Chief in history standing right behind him...

its Donald Trump and those Russians again. Whats next, are they going to plant a phony story about Hunter Biden's laptop or maybe Trump is colluding with them again. Maybe in the future you can produce some actual evidence.

Snuskpelle · Dec 24, 2023

More Russians than the late Prigo considering turning weapons the other way:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738865889909326027

LacesOut · Dec 24, 2023

Pure grift.
Payoffs for the criminal elite govtards whose children work on the boards of corrupt Ukraine corporations.

vanzandt · Dec 25, 2023

Snuskpelle said:
Third, Ukraine uses American support to buy American supplies. Meaning it is essentially a job subsidy for Americans, with fewer unemployed in the US than would otherwise be the case.

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Well, I'd be willing to bet, for every extra dollar flowing into whatever merchant of war manufacturer that lies upon our shores and has the privilege of sucking off this tit... that a whopping $0.07 of that dollar(tops) works its way into the creation of new jobs and/or wage increases for existing jobs. The rest goes to WS and its investment bankers.
Just calling a spade a spade.

Buy1Sell2 · Dec 26, 2023

vanzandt said:
Well, I'd be willing to bet, for every extra dollar flowing into whatever merchant of war manufacturer that lies upon our shores and has the privilege of sucking off this tit... that a whopping $0.07 of that dollar(tops) works its way into the creation of new jobs and/or wage increases for existing jobs. The rest goes to WS and its investment bankers.
Just calling a spade a spade.

The war in Ukraine is over in terms of Ukraine having a chance to win. It is the beginning of WWIII as I have mentioned previously. Just as in WWII and WWI, the enemy gains will not be reversed without the US directly involved with personnel deployed. At this time, there should be a peace treaty giving Russia the territory that they have already annexed and we call it a day.

Atlantic · Dec 26, 2023

Buy1Sell2 said:
The war in Ukraine is over in terms of Ukraine having a chance to win. It is the beginning of WWIII as I have mentioned previously. Just as in WWII and WWI, the enemy gains will not be reversed without the US directly involved with personnel deployed. At this time, there should be a peace treaty giving Russia the territory that they have already annexed and we call it a day.

you prove your stupidity on every new day.

stop posting about issues that you have no idea about.

stop posting.