UK trader arrested for May 2010 U.S. Stock market flash crash

Can someone give me a good reason why spoofing shouldn't be legal? Who's to decide what kind of order flow, and resting orders should be an element of price discovery??? It's CIRCULAR reasoning to begin with.....

Ummm, because it's been against the law for quite some time now.

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html

"Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions."
 
It is like you go to McD and order a big Mac meal for $9 and they would tell you, sorry that was a spoofed order and it is actually $11.5...

McD's also isnt trying to auction their burgers.
Anyone trading size know the book is bullshit. Especially during volatility.
 
I know. I asked why. And i dont need anything from the SEC, they dont know shit. Anyone with half a brain would be over-qualified to work there.

Somehow these "dimwits" you loathe referred this case to the US D.A., the British legal system and compelled this guy to rat out his compatriots and disgorge everything he had over it all...

Every electronic order has a footprint.
 
Somehow these "dimwits" you loathe referred this case to the US D.A., the British legal system and compelled this guy to rat out his compatriots and disgorge everything he had over it all...

Every electronic order has a footprint.

Exactly my point, theyre so clueless they need his help to bust anyone.

Back to what i was saying, why does a global market need 100% accurate market depth to function properly lol. Its almost a joke and its sad its not.

He took advantage of predatory algo's and he's getting busted for it.
 
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I know. I asked why.

Alrighty then, I will give you a better answer. Just because. Happy now?

Let me ask back, why shouldn't it be illegal? What legal purpose could it have, what is actually useful for market participants

By the way, you can cry about the law, but you can not argue the law in court. Just in case you ever get caught spoofing or running an online black market...
 
Let me ask back, why shouldn't it be illegal? What legal purpose could it have, what is actually useful for market participants

Have you tried to trade against algos? Spoofing is the best way to profit from them considering most of them are just really really fast front-runners. It amazes me that any discretionary trader would actually be in favor of banning spoofing. It would be an effective tool to use against bots (if it weren't illegal).
 
Navinder Singh Sarao, the UK day trader guilty of “spoofing” stock index futures, has helped US prosecutors build a case in a broadening crackdown on market abuse. Criminal spoofing charges unsealed on Monday against Jitesh Thakkar, a technology consultant in Illinois, cite information obtained by a “Trader #1”. The unnamed trader was Mr Sarao, a person close to the matter and court filings said. Mr Sarao pleaded guilty in November 2016 to one count of wire fraud and one of spoofing, a tactic of misleading other traders by rapidly entering and cancelling orders. He pledged to co-operate with authorities as part of his plea agreement. The case against Mr Thakkar was announced alongside several other criminal spoofing charges in what the US justice department called its largest futures market criminal enforcement action. He was the only vendor to the futures industry to be charged, not a trader. Mr Sarao has not yet been sentenced. An affidavit filed in the Thakkar case said his co-operation with prosecutors could lead to a reduced sentence. Prosecutors labelled Mr Thakkar a co-conspirator for developing a trading program that enabled Trader #1 to spoof the e-mini S&P 500 futures contract on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. In a separate civil action, the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission charged Mr Thakkar with “aiding and abetting spoofing and a manipulative and deceptive scheme” with a Trader A in the same futures contract. James McDonald, the CFTC enforcement director, said: “In its effort to root out spoofing from our markets, the CFTC will work vigorously to hold accountable not only the individuals who engage in the spoofing, but also those who produce and sell the tools designed to spoof.” Mr Thakkar was arrested by law enforcement authorities Monday and could not be reached for comment. Mr Sarao’s lawyer did not immediately respond for comment. Mr Thakkar’s company, Edge Financial Technologies of Chicago, builds trading algorithms, high-speed trading platforms and “kill switches” for traders, among other products, according to its website. He served on a CFTC technology advisory committee from 2012 to 2014, the website said before his biographical page disappeared late on Monday. But between October 2011 and April 2015, federal authorities allege that Mr Thakkar was also conspiring with the trader to spoof the e-mini S&P market, according to the criminal complaint. The civil complaint against Mr Thakkar said he began working with Trader A after an October 12, 2011 email communication. The language of the communication is identical to an email from the same date between Mr Thakkar and Mr Sarao, which the CFTC had previously filed in its case against Mr Sarao. The criminal complaint against Mr Thakkar said his co-conspirator was a futures trader who lived in the UK and pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of spoofing on November 9, 2016 — all facts that are unique to Mr Sarao. Authorities had blamed Mr Sarao’s aggressive trading for contributing to the 2010 “flash crash,” when US stock indices inexplicably plunged one afternoon. This week’s court filings indicate Mr Thakkar and Mr Sarao began working together more than a year later.

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Maybe they should put the person who invented the operating system that Mr Thakkar used to program his trading platform. If you are going to irrationally go after him, why stop there?
 
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