UK arms control and the fake USA crisis

[Dragons Teeth]

Quote from Mav88:

I made it quite clear and directly to you, I was talking about the handgun ban in the UK in our side discussion. Now you make some irrelvenat reference to the OP? give it up, you lost.

My opinion isn't conflicted at all, handgun control failed because culture is a stronger determinant than handgun availability.

Firstly you have not presented an opinion just a heap of cut and paste in a completely nonsensical arrangement.

Data is not an assumption. Data says handgun ban failed. Data says culture is stronger than gun laws. You have not come anywhere near refuting my conclusions, you think labels are refutations.

The Firearms Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) 1997 which you refer collectively as the handgun ban werre drafted exclusively to remove the right to legal ownership of most handguns. The Firearms Act 1997 was not intended to tackle illegally held handguns in the possession of criminals, this is the point you are missing Mav88 it was not a universal ban on handguns in England, Wales and Scotland.
In the eyes of the Home Office policy people that drafted this act it has been a success as no further incidents of mass murder using a handgun have occurred.
It is much like cracking a nut with a sledgehammer but that was the solution of our bureaucrats.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Dragons Teeth:

...The Firearms Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) 1997 which you refer collectively as the handgun ban werre drafted exclusively to remove the right to legal ownership of most handguns. The Firearms Act 1997 was not intended to tackle illegally held handguns in the possession of criminals, this is the point you are missing Mav88 it was not a universal ban on handguns in England, Wales and Scotland.

I'm not even sure WHAT to think about this.