UK arms control and the fake USA crisis

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Are less people dying due to advances in medical attention?
Are less people dying because shooters are poor shots?
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People are simply less willing to kill others.
 
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I mean the tragedy of yet another gun tragedy in another USA city.
I've decided what needs to be done.
Have you?
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Yes I have, I'm considering getting a CC permit.
 
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... there was a notion of a certain panic at the Home Office over an armed and unhappy populace....
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Our liberals here in the US feel much the same.
IF only they could successfully disarm the citizens when then could be forced to march and think in lock step with the leftists.

Yeah its a quote taken from Gun Facts by Guy Smith a fairly badly written and often simplistic guide for those wishing to defend the 2nd, he has endless non-relevant scalpelled quotes
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I can honestly see where one predisposed to be anti gun might find some issues with how it's written. BUT having read it through it several times I think you're being a bit harsh on his compilation of facts and figures. Unless you have knowledge of intentionally written misinformation it seems to me to be a much needed source for many useful and telling statistics. Naturally some people will ignore any and all information that doesn't reinforce their preconceived notions. That's human nature.
and this one was not proven as fact in regards to officers committing statistical fraud to protect tourism.
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I see, you mean the statement has been proven false or only that it hasn't been proved true to your satisfaction? There is a difference. (at this point without further research I don't know one way or the other)
 
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Our liberals here in the US feel much the same.
IF only they could successfully disarm the citizens when then could be forced to march and think in lock step with the leftists.
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Yet it was not liberals that started the erosion of gun rights in the UK it was Conservatives.

I can honestly see where one predisposed to be anti gun might find some issues with how it's written. BUT having read it through it several times I think you're being a bit harsh on his compilation of facts and figures. Unless you have knowledge of intentionally written misinformation it seems to me to be a much needed source for many useful and telling statistics. Naturally some people will ignore any and all information that doesn't reinforce their preconceived notions. That's human nature.
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I am predisposed to the dislike of bullet-point factoid formats discussing / defending anything remotely serious.
I see, you mean the statement has been proven false or only that it hasn't been proved true to your satisfaction? There is a difference. (at this point without further research I don't know one way or the other)
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Its never been proven to be true and I am inclined to side with the Home Office and police on this one, I believe the original accusation of tampering with the stats came from the Guardian.
 
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Yet it was not liberals that started the erosion of gun rights in the UK it was Conservatives...
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Oh I saw that the first time, I was merely pointing out that it's the liberals here that would like to do the same thing.

I am predisposed to the dislike of bullet-point factoid formats discussing / defending anything remotely serious....
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Duly noted, although I must say to me a fact is a fact. But I get your point.
 
Well, we've flooded the nation with guns: That ain't workin'.
I agree that taking all the guns away won't work.
So, do any of you believe that we can do something in moderation to help with the solution to all the gun violence?
Or, does the left just keep yelling against guns while the right keeps promoting the opposite?
 
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