UK arms control and the fake USA crisis

[Dragons Teeth]

Quote from RCG Trader:

You are still in the top five, build better killing machines, and you might catch the USA!

Some more regime reorganization in the Middle East and we can sell a little more.
You know the Netherlands is just one place behind China

 

[TheBlackHand]

Quote from Mav88:

So If I manufacture more CDs of a really bad movie, even though they may be already be in oversupply sitting on store shelves, I GUARANTEE that use will go up?

Such oversimplistic notions of supply and demand/use were thrown out long ago. The fact that you find it 'obvious' is really funny.

eer, no. Films are published on DVD's or Blue Ray. They've never been on CD.

Not quite the same argument though is it because you're talking about a specific film, which in this case would be like talking about a particular brand of fire arm.

Please try harder.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from TheBlackHand:

eer, no. Films are published on DVD's or Blue Ray. They've never been on CD.

Not quite the same argument though is it because you're talking about a specific film, which in this case would be like talking about a particular brand of fire arm.

Please try harder.

You wouldn't happen to be serbian would you ?

 

[pspr]

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

You wouldn't happen to be Serbian would you ?

I just thought that was RCG doing his, "Talk To The Hand", persona.

 

[Mav88]

Not really as you stated:

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Quote from Mav88:
UK had access pre 1987, they probabaly chose not to that's all.
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If handguns were in minimal circulation and you could not CCW or legally use them as a defensive weapon why would their absence have an effect on armed crime. There also has been a rise in the number of legal firearms in the UK since 1997 and 2010 which seems to be discounted in most pro/anti gun studies.

You still don't understand, it doesn't matter what the absolute levels were. If I start with handgun level X and decrease it by law, no matter what X is, then liberal theory says handgun gun goes down. It went up, so either gun control doesn't work or liberal;s are wrong. You keep trying to dimish the point by saying 'well the UK has other firearms'- doesn't matter, as we are talking handguns only

 

[Mav88]

Quote from TheBlackHand:

eer, no. Films are published on DVD's or Blue Ray. They've never been on CD.

Not quite the same argument though is it because you're talking about a specific film, which in this case would be like talking about a particular brand of fire arm.

Please try harder.

that's right jackwagon, you know full well what the point was but think that the 'CD' mistake invalidates it.

Your super-simpleton econ 101 is not true in the absolute sense, it's easy to show that quite clearly, no need to try anything harder here. In fact it didn't take much trying at all to refute you since you have such a grossly incompetant sense of your own intuition.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Mav88:

You still don't understand, it doesn't matter what the absolute levels were. If I start with handgun level X and decrease it by law, no matter what X is, then liberal theory says handgun gun goes down. It went up, so either gun control doesn't work or liberal;s are wrong. You keep trying to dimish the point by saying 'well the UK has other firearms'- doesn't matter, as we are talking handguns only

Well, of course gun control does work, but only in situations where the gun control is actually working, courtrooms, airplanes, etc. But you're right, in places where it's not working, gun control does not work.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Mav88:

that's right jackwagon, you know full well what the point was but think that the 'CD' mistake invalidates it.

DVD vs CD, spelling, grammar, math errors. For days now it's seemingly all the left has had around here. Oh and the insults of course. But then according to them only we do that.

 

[Dragons Teeth]

Quote from Mav88:

You still don't understand, it doesn't matter what the absolute levels were. If I start with handgun level X and decrease it by law, no matter what X is, then liberal theory says handgun gun goes down. It went up, so either gun control doesn't work or liberal;s are wrong. You keep trying to dimish the point by saying 'well the UK has other firearms'- doesn't matter, as we are talking handguns only

Are you pursuing a political ideology or facts?
You are on a fools errand if you seek comparisons between legal firearms and crime in the UK and transplanting that argument to the US.
Due to the rarity of handguns in the UK they did not enter the conscious thought of criminals targeting non criminals as they were not carried and if kept at home they had to be safes/lock boxes in locked rooms. I feel your argument would be better served if it focused on the unique circumstances surrounding gun control/self defense in the US

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from Dragons Teeth:

Are you pursuing a political ideology or facts?
You are on a fools errand if you seek comparisons between legal firearms and crime in the UK and transplanting that argument to the US.
Due to the rarity of handguns in the UK they did not enter the conscious thought of criminals targeting non criminals as they were not carried and if kept at home they had to be safes/lock boxes in locked rooms. I feel your argument would be better served if it focused on the unique circumstances surrounding gun control/self defense in the US

So you're saying that if criminals know people may be armed, they take that fact into consideration? I think that's the main point we are trying to make.

I know people who have had their houses brazenly broken into in posh areas of london while they were there, and the invaders were well aware they were there. They just didn't care because they knew they would not be met with deadly force. Few criminals would take that risk in most of the southern or western US. In those areas, there are a few things you just don't do if you want to live. Breaking into a man's house when he's there is high on the list.