U. S. Trade Relations at a Disadvantage.

[piezoe]

Just curious, but how can you call someone a "failed human being" when they are a billionaire and President of the United States??

I mean, how deranged are you? Regardless of your personal likes or dislikes regarding the person, you can't deny he's rather successful in life. You call him a failure from your bar stool in Alabama or Mississippi (I forget which). You know, just for context.

I also consider Stalin and Hitler to be failed human beings. Both were leaders of great nations. As is obvious, my criteria for success as a human being is very different from yours. And whether that miserable excuse for a man goes to prison for tax evasion and money laundering, or not, he'll still have been President of a great nation and still have inherited 200 million. And he'll still be a success to you ; an abject failure to me.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I also consider Stalin and Hitler to be failed human beings. Both were leaders of great nations. As is obvious, my criteria for success as a human being is very different from yours. And whether that miserable excuse for a man goes to prison for tax evasion and money laundering, or not, he'll still have been President of a great nation and still have inherited 200 million. And he'll still be a success to you ; an abject failure to me.

You can consider them to be failed human beings in certain context, I suppose. Ie, Hitler failed to bring about the transformation of Germany he was trying to accomplish. He failed to win the war he started, etc.

But by American measure, Trump is wildly successful. As a left wing democrat, you may consider Trump a failed human being, but this doesn't make it wildly accepted. It only means Piezoe hates someone who is rich and President. I don't rightly like Robert DeNiro as a human being, but I'd be hard pressed to say he isn't a successful actor and person.

By the way, according to Godwin's Law, you've just lost the discussion. So you're a failed messageboard debater.

 

[piezoe]

You can consider them to be failed human beings in certain context, I suppose. Ie, Hitler failed to bring about the transformation of Germany he was trying to accomplish. He failed to win the war he started, etc.

But by American measure, Trump is wildly successful. As a left wing democrat, you may consider Trump a failed human being, but this doesn't make it wildly accepted. It only means Piezoe hates someone who is rich and President. I don't rightly like Robert DeNiro as a human being, but I'd be hard pressed to say he isn't a successful actor and person.

By the way, according to Godwin's Law, you've just lost the discussion. So you're a failed messageboard debater.

If you don't mind I'll just stick with my previous comment with regard to your assertion implying that it is unreasonable to consider Trump a failed human considering his high office and wealth. If it is any comfort to you, you are not alone in your thinking. I allow, however, that you may instead have simply conflated different kinds of success that ought not to be. I hope your case is the latter.

 

[Tsing Tao]

If you don't mind I'll just stick with my previous comment with regard to your assertion implying that it is unreasonable to consider Trump a failed human considering his high office and wealth. If it is any comfort to you, you are not alone in your thinking. I allow, however, that you may instead have simply conflated different kinds of success that ought not to be. I hope your case is the latter.

Very magnanimous for you to "allow" that this may be the case. A thousand humble thanks.

In all seriousness, I don't need to be comforted. I am quite comfortable with my value system - especially when put up against yours, sir.

 

[jem]

so you trust the analysis of doctor who broke his or her doctor patient confidentiality? Oh wait no doctor did that?

are you fraudulently citing the bullshit of partisan crackpots who broke their doctor vows to do no harm. Did this doctors or crackpots pretend to give a diagnosis even though they have never treated or spoken with the president?

And you cite those crack pots... without explanation or concern?

Piezoe the master of propaganda through logical fallacies.
He hardly posts without using one or two of these rhetorical devices....

which ones did he use on this thread?

For the same reason some investors may shun investment in Tesla, i.e., the CEO appears to be suffering from bipolar disorder, some countries may put off trade and other negotiations with the United States hoping there will be a change in leadership in 11 months.

The U.S. President has a severe mental disorder. Psychiatrists have identified the Presidents disorder as severe narcissism with concomitant psychopathy. This causes him to be socially avoided and isolated at important international conferences. Obviously, not a good thing. On the other hand, the President's malady renders him susceptible to manipulation; yet another reason sound mental health in a country's leader is essential.

The U.S. is seriously endangered by its mentally ill President. The U.S. Constitution provides a means of dealing with some such situations. The nations founders did not anticipate, however, a situation in which the President would willfully engage in defeating these protective measures. The nation is in more dire straights than many realize.

 

[piezoe]

so you trust the analysis of doctor who broke his or her doctor patient confidentiality? Oh wait no doctor did that?

are you fraudulently citing the bullshit of partisan crackpots who broke their doctor vows to do no harm. Did this doctors or crackpots pretend to give a diagnosis even though they have never treated or spoken with the president?

And you cite those crack pots... without explanation or concern?

Piezoe the master of propaganda through logical fallacies.
He hardly posts without using one or two of these rhetorical devices....

which ones did he use on this thread?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/business/elon-musk-tesla-board.html

However I diagnosed him as bipolar long before this NY Times article came out. That's the sole reason I ruled out long ago any consideration of investing in Tesla.

 

[Snarkhund]

Just curious, but how can you call someone a "failed human being" when they are a billionaire and President of the United States??

I mean, how deranged are you? Regardless of your personal likes or dislikes regarding the person, you can't deny he's rather successful in life. You call him a failure from your bar stool in Alabama or Mississippi (I forget which). You know, just for context.

The guy is so filled with hate that his posts have become giberish.

Can't wait for November just to see him descend into deeper incoherence.

 

[jem]

its your 4th favorite rhetorical trick.
after being called out for fraud or propaganda...
focus on the irrelevancy or go with a red herring.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/business/elon-musk-tesla-board.html

However I diagnosed him as bipolar long before this NY Times article came out. That's the sole reason I ruled out long ago any consideration of investing in Tesla.

 

[piezoe]

its your 4th favorite rhetorical trick.
after being called out for fraud or propaganda...
focus on the irrelevancy or go with a red herring.

Maybe I have so many rhetorical tricks it would be worth a writing a manual as a guide for others. Would you be interested it authoring it? I want credit of course as the originator of these tricks.

 

[carrer]

I also consider Stalin and Hitler to be failed human beings. Both were leaders of great nations. As is obvious, my criteria for success as a human being is very different from yours. And whether that miserable excuse for a man goes to prison for tax evasion and money laundering, or not, he'll still have been President of a great nation and still have inherited 200 million. And he'll still be a success to you ; an abject failure to me.

He did not inherit 200 million. The inheritance was divided among his other siblings.
Also remember that he went bankrupt (minus 900 million or something). And turned around, a multi billionaire now. Trump estimated income in 2018 is $461 million.