U.S. Healthcare in Crisis.

Quote from bigdavediode:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Maybe you could highlight or underline the exact words which specifically guarantee the right to health care or that the federal governments purpose is to provide such amenities.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Maybe you could highlight or underline the exact words which specifically guarantee the right to health care or that the federal governments purpose is to provide such amenities.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.

It falls under the phrase: "promote the general welfare".

The interstate system, space program, public education, Social Security, WIC and other food programs aren't specifically mentioned in the Constitution either. The health care reform bill is NOT a Constitutional admendment; it is a Law. Most laws do not require a change to the Constitution.

The question for those opposing health care reform boils down to this: why would you oppose attempts by society to remove or reduce the single greatest threat to your security and prosperity ?!?!

Health care is something that will definitely, not maybe, but definitely, will affect each and every one of us. To spread the risk/costs among ALL people for the benefit of ALL is a complete no brainer. This can be done and is best done by removing all involvement of PRIVATE insurance companies and adopting a single-payer, government-administrated system. It will cut out the waste of private insurance and standardize care across the country. It should be paid for out of general revenue funds and taxes raised if necessary to cover the costs.
 
Quote from RangeBar:

It falls under the phrase: "promote the general welfare".

The interstate system, space program, public education, Social Security, WIC and other food programs aren't specifically mentioned in the Constitution either. The health care reform bill is NOT a Constitutional admendment; it is a Law. Most laws do not require a change to the Constitution.

The question for those opposing health care reform boils down to this: why would you oppose attempts by society to remove or reduce the single greatest threat to your security and prosperity ?!?!

Health care is something that will definitely, not maybe, but definitely, will affect each and every one of us. To spread the risk/costs among ALL people for the benefit of ALL is a complete no brainer. This can be done and is best done by removing all involvement of PRIVATE insurance companies and adopting a single-payer, government-administrated system. It will cut out the waste of private insurance and standardize care across the country. It should be paid for out of general revenue funds and taxes raised if necessary to cover the costs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Crxm4deDM
 
I wish you had a link to the text of that video. If I watch all 57 minutes I certainly exceed my fair use threshold limits.

I'm certainly not one to ignore the problems that ANY health care system will run into. Does government have waste, fraud and entrenched bureucrats; absolutely. Just as the current system has waste, fraud and entrenched middle level managers.

This issue is so huge that there are no simple answers. However, for people and Congress representives to so openly cater to and crater to the demands of wasteful insurance companies and drug companies at the expense of ALL Americans is pathetic.

In the end, for myself and wife, we pay for our health insurance and have for 20+ years. If the current bill will prevent the company from terminating our coverage when we get sick then it serves my needs. I was hoping we could solve the needs of all but c'est la vie. We'll work on that part later.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Maybe you could highlight or underline the exact words which specifically guarantee the right to health care or that the federal governments purpose is to provide such amenities.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.

Apparently you don't understand how the constitution works.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

So enlighten us poor dumb conservatives.

First off, Republicans aren't conservatives.

Secondly, Republicans don't understand that the law is brought forth from the meanings expressed in the constitution.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Maybe you could highlight or underline the exact words which specifically guarantee the right to health care or that the federal governments purpose is to provide such amenities.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.

I think that would go under, "promote the general welfare".

Which we already do by spending dollars on prevention.
 
Quote from RangeBar:

It falls under the phrase: "promote the general welfare".

The interstate system, space program, public education, Social Security, WIC and other food programs aren't specifically mentioned in the Constitution either...
A broad and obviously subjective statement, but I can see where proponents could use it for this purpose. As well as practically any other purpose.

The question for those opposing health care reform boils down to this: why would you oppose attempts by society to remove or reduce the single greatest threat to your security and prosperity ?!?!
First, I and many others don't consider it to be the single greatest threat to our prosperity.

But even if it is, it's not "society" that's attempting to reform our system. It's the congress/federal government. BIG difference. The same congress responsible for nearly every problem we have today. The same congress that has spent 12 trillion dollars we don't have. The same congress that has fucked up virtually every issue they've attempted to addressed. The same congress that hasn't even read the proposed legislation.

Seems to me the question of support for this boils down to why on earth would anyone with a brain in their head support congress getting involved (more than they already are) with health care.

Are there not other simpler, more cost effect, less intrusive means of reform without instituting yet another behemoth incompetent bureaucracy?
Especially with something as important to us all as health care.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

So enlighten us poor dumb conservatives.

Quote from bigdavediode:

First off, Republicans aren't conservatives.

Secondly, Republicans don't understand that the law is brought forth from the meanings expressed in the constitution.
I didn't say anything about republicans dave, you brought that up out of thin air.

So, how does the constitution "work" to use your own phrase?
 
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