U.S. Headed For Economic Disaster

Quote from RZTrader:

It is obvious that you have a lot of misconceptions and prejudice about the chinese, but let me give you a heads up: the chinese culture is one of the most entrepreneurial, risk-taking, capitalistic in the world and throughout history. They know how to do business and are good, very good at it. To think that they can't manage or can't be creative or have no interpersonal skills is just silly. They are right now leading in many fields of the future and where they are lagging behind, it will take them less than a generation to recoup. Why? Because they are such good managers that they have been able to mobilize 1 billion people to engineer the fastest and widest social, technological and economical revolution in history without bloodshed. That's called management skills.

As for your kids becoming managers, talking and winking won't get them very far... even if by chance they make it half way in the corporate ladder, the fall will be fast and brutal.


If they're so good, how'd they get so far behind?

Oh, I know, the evil white man repressed them, or maybe they "inherited the problem". lol@obongites
 
Quote from dozu888:



Go back to page one and read the title again - we are debating, if skills in maths/science have any bearing on the future of a country.

This exactly proves my point - while the Chinese students (sounds like many of you were) are busy beefing up maths/science, left to neglect is the communication skills.

You guys go against any high school debate team in the US, you will get your rear kicked, any day.

Math and science have an extremely high bearing on a future of a country. Have you forgotten how China fell behind the West? Precisely because it got behind in math, science, and technology. Are you suggesting the US do the same and rely on "talk" to keep ahead? ... thanks for the advice Mr. PHD.
 
We need a well-balanced system. Math/science, communication/people skills and reading/writing are all important.

One ingredient alone cannot create the success.

We are all traders here. Stop loss is important, but stop loss cannot make you a great trader. Does it mean that you don't have to master cutting loss. :p
 
Quote from RZTrader:

Math and science have an extremely high bearing on a future of a country. Have you forgotten how China fell behind the West? Precisely because it got behind in math, science, and technology. Are you suggesting the US do the same and rely on "talk" to keep ahead? ... thanks for the advice Mr. PHD.

As the US fools the Chinese to buy the worthless treasury, these chinese Ph.D.s are trying to fool the Americans not to invest in math/science. :D
 
Quote from yip1997:

As the US fools the Chinese to buy the worthless treasury, these chinese Ph.D.s are trying to fool the Americans not to invest in math/science. :D


If the US treasuries are worthless, the US dollar is worthless.
 
Quote from yip1997:

As the US fools the Chinese to buy the worthless treasury, these chinese Ph.D.s are trying to fool the Americans not to invest in math/science. :D

That's why thinking out of the box is so important for a country's future... while the Chinese students are getting really good in calculating 1+1 = 2, the Americans were busy working on new rules of the game.... like 1+1 = 3, extra credit for printing money and enjoy the labor of the Chinese.

You tell me who is the winner, who is the loser in this game. The one with the superior maths skill, or the one with imagination?

Granted that the Chinese had great inventions in the past, but there is nothing much to write home about as of late. They counterfeit merchandise of every name brand, pirate copy every hollywood production. Every successful website is a clone of the US counterpart. Where is the innovation? there is none, because this generation has no imagination.

Again, this generation is the victum of the ruthless education system... and unless the system changes, the next generation will again be the losers, because when their American counterparts grow up, they will be the one that set the new rules of the next big game.

This is not prejudice.. this is the fact.
 
On the side topic of imagination - it does NOT come overnight.

Looking at my own kids growing up, thru pre-school and elementary, every spark of creativity is encouraged by their teachers.

At home, they have all the free time, to make a BIG MESS, while at the same time they touch/smell/experience things, they let their imagination fly! and once in a while, they present these surprises - artworks, little poems, imaginary stories.

I have been invited to read to their classes... when I ask a question, they all raise their little hands to express an opinion.. and they are all awesome answers.

This is the type of environment that future leaders are cultivated. I am happy for them because I know their Chinese counterparts are doing 1+1 = 2 till 8pm everyday, plus weekend end class just to make sure they get really good at 1+1 = 2. By the time they finish elementary school, it will be game over. The imaginary seeds would have been forever smothered.
 
Quote from dozu888:

That's why thinking out of the box is so important for a country's future... while the Chinese students are getting really good in calculating 1+1 = 2, the Americans were busy working on new rules of the game.... like 1+1 = 3, extra credit for printing money and enjoy the labor of the Chinese.


This is what you have learned from US? 1 + 1 = 3 is a new innovation? I now see how bad the chinese education system is. LOL.


You tell me who is the winner, who is the loser in this game. The one with the superior maths skill, or the one with imagination?

Everyone is a winner. You can image you are the king even if you are a slave. :D


Granted that the Chinese had great inventions in the past, but there is nothing much to write home about as of late. They counterfeit merchandise of every name brand, pirate copy every hollywood production. Every successful website is a clone of the US counterpart. Where is the innovation? there is none, because this generation has no imagination.


You are the one with the greatest imagination. Image your kids to work as a manager. OOOOps. Probably true, a manager in McDonalds.


Again, this generation is the victum of the ruthless education system... and unless the system changes, the next generation will again be the losers, because when their American counterparts grow up, they will be the one that set the new rules of the next big game.

This is not prejudice.. this is the fact.


Do you know why America set the rules of the world? Do you think they can continue to set the rules for the world when your kids who understand no math/science grows up as the CEOs of the American corporations.

You are indeed the victum of the bad chinese education system.
 
Quote from dozu888:

On the side topic of imagination - it does NOT come overnight.

Looking at my own kids growing up, thru pre-school and elementary, every spark of creativity is encouraged by their teachers.

At home, they have all the free time, to make a BIG MESS, while at the same time they touch/smell/experience things, they let their imagination fly! and once in a while, they present these surprises - artworks, little poems, imaginary stories.

I have been invited to read to their classes... when I ask a question, they all raise their little hands to express an opinion.. and they are all awesome answers.

This is the type of environment that future leaders are cultivated. I am happy for them because I know their Chinese counterparts are doing 1+1 = 2 till 8pm everyday, plus weekend end class just to make sure they get really good at 1+1 = 2. By the time they finish elementary school, it will be game over. The imaginary seeds would have been forever smothered.

I am glad that your kids are learning 1+1 = 3 at school. When someone thinks 1+1 = 3 is innovative math, any answers to your questions are awesome.

You spent everyday to learn 1+1 = 2 in the past doesn't mean 1+1= 2 should not be taught at school. You just need to use your innovation to create a new way of teaching 1+1=2 so that it only takes the kids to learn the concept in 5 min.

It was not the math material that failed you in the past. It was the way that your teachers taught you that failed you.

The problem was not the education system. The problem was the mainland (note not chinese) culture.

[edit] It is the mainland culture that you are superior if you manage others. You are inferior if you serve others. Since you were raised in that culture, you now think that a manager is superior and so you want to raise your kids to become a manager. Poor kids.

A free mind with the right foundation creates innovative and useful ideas. Set your mind free now so your kids will be free.
 
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