U.S. Ambassador killed in Libya

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Quite frankly I don't get it."where were the marines?

It seems the embassies (at least under Obama) farm out security to the lowest bidder in the local market. Is it any wonder the Libyan security just turned their heads and let it happen?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

It's time for one of those "teachable moments" everyone likes to talk about. We need to pull out every single American, cut off all aid and money, and then let'em have it. I'd happily pay an extra buck at the pump to see every one of their refineries in flames.
Now we can ask, what would Reagan do? Much as I disliked some of his economic policies, there is little doubt he'd already have planes in Libyan air space.

The US policy towards the Middle East needs to change. Our current policy is to pour tons of money into countries where the people hate us (e.g. Pakistan, Egypt) in an attempt to buy "peace" and "cooperation". When we do invade a country we spend 10 years or more there paying more money to re-build it.

We are never going to make these people happy in the Middle East no matter how much we pay. It is time to change the entire policy to "Fear" and the US needs to "carry a big stick". The new policy should be that if we attack your country, we will bomb your entire economy to the ground and not re-build it. Dont' like it - well then don't support terrorists, offend us in any way, or hide Bin Laden near your military academy. Looking for finanicial aid money - well we will make small payments for each wanted terrorist's head delivered. Don't like the US - well that is fine, we don't like you either. But you will respect us because we carry a big stick and will use it on your rear ends.
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

The US policy towards the Middle East needs to change. Our current policy is to pour tons of money into countries where the people hate us (e.g. Pakistan, Egypt) in an attempt to buy "peace" and "cooperation". When we do invade a country we spend 10 years or more there paying more money to re-buil it.

We are never going to make these people happy in the Middle East no matter how much we pay. It is time to change the entire policy to "Fear" and the US needs to "carry a big stick". The new policy should be that if we attack your country, we will bomb your entire economy to the ground and not re-build it. Dont' like it - well then don't support terrorists, offend us in any way, or hide Bin Laden near your military academy. Looking for finanicial aid money - well we will make small payments for each wanted terrorist's head delivered. Don't like the US - well that is fine, we don't like you either. But you will respect us because we carry a big stick and will use it on your rear ends.
at least you guys have company. crazy christians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQv8eRFnnbw&feature=g-all-u
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

The US policy towards the Middle East needs to change. Our current policy is to pour tons of money into countries where the people hate us (e.g. Pakistan, Egypt) in an attempt to buy "peace" and "cooperation". When we do invade a country we spend 10 years or more there paying more money to re-build it.

We are never going to make these people happy in the Middle East no matter how much we pay. It is time to change the entire policy to "Fear" and the US needs to "carry a big stick". The new policy should be that if we attack your country, we will bomb your entire economy to the ground and not re-build it. Don't like it - well then don't support terrorists, offend us in any way, or hide Bin Laden near your military academy. Looking for financial aid money - well we will make small payments for each wanted terrorist's head delivered. Don't like the US - well that is fine, we don't like you either. But you will respect us because we carry a big stick and will use it on your rear ends.

I'd be OK with this.
 
We're walking on egg shells to keep the dollar as the reserve currency.
If we don't provide aid and they drop the dollar its game over.

Preventing the Gold Dinar being used to settle oil contracts is why we are there. Propping up/ Bribing regimes with foreign aid keeps the dollar at the top.
 
The Ambassador loved Libya, the Libyan people, helped them during their revoltuion. His reward...death. So much for diplomacy. So much for the dangerously naive thinking we can negotaite with these people.
http://gma.yahoo.com/slain-diplomat-chris-stevens-slipped-libya-cargo-ship-154521257.html
From this point forward all rioters outside our Embassy's need to be shot. 24/7 Air support over all Embassy's. Free fire zone for all Marines guarding Embassy's. Orders to shoot and kill at their discretion. No questions asked. Not willing to do that? get out now. Cut off all money and aid. One act of aggression on our shores? Nuke the offending country.
 
Egypt is another story, but over in Libya the Libyan security detail suffered ten dead and helped out the US folks inside.
Benghazi was a center of the revolution, and that revolution was, in the face of heavy Republican criticism, helped by the US. Demonstrations, large ones, showing appreciation for the dead American diplomats have been held, and in sharp contrast to the Egyptian gov't, the Libyan one has condemned the attack.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Quite frankly I don't get it."where were the marines?
If I were in charge of the Marine embassy security.
my guys would have (but not limited to):
m-32 grenade launcher with white phosphorous grenades as round of choice (great for crowd control)

Flame throwers: once again excellent for pesky sand chigger control.

Dillon Aero Gatling Gun's

M18 Claymore mine's


A special voluntary detachment that would search the hospitals (etc) for WP burns, collect these people and their nearest relatives : then finish the job (ovens not required).


The only "B" I ever made in Military Science was : Military Professional Ethics.

I know I scored ace's on the tests but I suspect my direct quote to the Full bird Colonel teaching the class of: " My job is to win, and I intend to do it whatever the situation demands" didn't go over too well. Every other cadet officer in the class had permanent brown nose stains.

Once again, this is the difference between Reacting and Responding to major events. Knee jerk reactions can cause 10 year wars, and the loss of thousands of American lives. Proper response is what we need when these things happen.

We all know you're tough PT, and have lotsa guns and all that, which I guess I do too. But there is a time for all this. My MOS put me into S2 back in the day, Intelligence. We were buried in the planning of events, and the response to events. Reacting willy nilly, without proper planning just makes things worse, not better. We are already the toughest guys on the planet, we don't need to do Knee Jerk reactions. We're better than that.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

the last time we let our emotions overrule our common sense we got into a ten year one trillion dollar war that left the country worse off that before we got there. how did that work out for you?
it wasnt the state it was an angry mob. we are going to use an act of war because an angry religious mob got out of control?

I agree with the thinker.

I was just wondering today, imagining a good conspiracy theory, that if there really was some One World Government behind the scenes, whose advantage it would be to reduce the great United States from World Superpower, what better way to weaken the stars and stripes (aside from forced multiculturalism) then to tempt it to wade headlong into the Graveyard of Empires.........
 
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