It is bigoted to suggest this is a belief held by "liberals" and run with it.
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It is bigoted to suggest this is a belief held by "liberals" and run with it.
It is bigoted to suggest this is a belief held by "liberals" and run with it.
I think it is time that you simply review some of the speeches from those on the left to show that they do not believe in personal responsibility, competition, or the value of hard work. There is speech after speech showing this. Shall we have the P&R forum post several hundred of these for your personal education or will you simply go over to YouTube & do a search yourself.
Of course, any opposing point of view to yours makes someone a "bigot" -- which is bigoted in itself.
Where is the bigoted theme in stating that people should take personal responsibility of their actions. Stating that sport contests should have winners and losers is somehow a negative. Is it bigoted to state that competition in sports, business, and other aspects of your life are good. Is there something bigoted about believing that hard-work should have rewards, and those who don't work hard should not reap the rewards. America's rise over two centuries was based on individuals taking risks, starting businesses, competing, and working hard for rewards. These attributes are a sign of a nation rising rather than declining.
There is nothing bigoted in what you just said. That is what a conservative should believe in.
Unfortunately that's not what the conservative party is right now. It is promoting bigotry. Trump himself continues to say that he's banning Muslims. This thread is a perfect example. While a terrible story, where was the conservative outrage at a white supremist killing two Indians in cold blood? That is the bigotry that is contrary to the classical American conservative values.
I contend that Trump is pushing the "participation" trophy. In fact many of Trump's policies are preventing foreigners from coming to this country "taking risks, starting businesses, competing and working hard for rewards." Instead of producing policies to make us more competitive (like increasing education), he's pushing protectionism and closed borders to unlevel the playing field.
There is nothing bigoted in what you just said. That is what a conservative should believe in.
Unfortunately that's not what the conservative party is right now. It is promoting bigotry. Trump himself continues to say that he's banning Muslims. This thread is a perfect example. While a terrible story, where was the conservative outrage at a white supremist killing two Indians in cold blood? That is the bigotry that is contrary to the classical American conservative values.
I contend that Trump is pushing the "participation" trophy. In fact many of Trump's policies are preventing foreigners from coming to this country "taking risks, starting businesses, competing and working hard for rewards." Instead of producing policies to make us more competitive (like increasing education), he's pushing protectionism and closed borders to unlevel the playing field.
First let me state that I am not really a Trump fan. Those who have seen some of my past commentary will acknowledge this. Nor can I really be classified as a modern Conservative, I am more of a moderate pro-business Republican.
I support some of the policies pushed by Trump and disagree with others.... I try to outline my positions on these objectively. The same that I did with previous presidents.
I do support the immigration policy changes to some degree. Here is my more complete thoughts on illegal immigration - https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-over-now-its-canadas-tu.307762/#post-4425895
There also needs to be significant reform to the H1-B Visa system which simply allows foreigners to come in a take jobs at half the salaries of American citizens. In many instances the U.S. citizens are forced to train their replacements to get severance.
I do believe we need to take measures to get more appropriate parity in trade -- such as putting in place tariffs that mirror other countries. Why can't U.S. companies sell appliances in China - it is because of the high import tariffs to our goods - while China sells their appliances over here with no tariffs. Do we need to wonder why the Appliance industry is dead in the U.S. As is the furniture industry, and the textile industry.
I have always been one to promote education, but not for-profit education which simply rips students off and leaves them ill-equipped to join the workforce. Most companies hiring professionals refuse to interview graduates from for-profit universities.
First let me state that I am not really a Trump fan. Those who have seen some of my past commentary will acknowledge this. Nor can I really be classified as a modern Conservative, I am more of a moderate pro-business Republican.
I support some of the policies pushed by Trump and disagree with others.... I try to outline my positions on these objectively. The same that I did with previous presidents.
I do support the immigration policy changes to some degree. Here is my more complete thoughts on illegal immigration - https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-over-now-its-canadas-tu.307762/#post-4425895
There also needs to be significant reform to the H1-B Visa system which simply allows foreigners to come in a take jobs at half the salaries of American citizens. In many instances the U.S. citizens are forced to train their replacements to get severance.
I do believe we need to take measures to get more appropriate parity in trade -- such as putting in place tariffs that mirror other countries. Why can't U.S. companies sell appliances in China - it is because of the high import tariffs to our goods - while China sells their appliances over here with no tariffs. Do we need to wonder why the Appliance industry is dead in the U.S. As is the furniture industry, and the textile industry.
I have always been one to promote education, but not for-profit education which simply rips students off and leaves them ill-equipped to join the workforce. Most companies hiring professionals refuse to interview graduates from for-profit universities.
I agree with everything you have said here and the linked post except I am more mixed on the H1B. There are stories of hiring H1B's because they are cheaper. But I think more now there is a lack of talent in the market and H1B's fill that. Further, I think that without an immigration plan, companies are more likely to outsoure offshore (especially tech work) and the country will lose the spending and tax revenues local employees would offer. In the 90's it was a scam to effectively hire indentured servants. I think modifications to the law have changed that. I'm not saying that the program shouldn't be modified, but I think there is a lot more to the story.
The "liberal" rhetoric on here is asinine. Seriously, when the majority of Americans start acting like idiots like Achilles28 and others on here, your country will rapidly decline.
The funny thing is, the majority of people are like you in Germany/France/Netherlands/Britain. And look how it turned out for them.
The funny thing is, the majority of people are like you in Germany/France/Netherlands/Britain. And look how it turned out for them.
Most people like me live in Canada or possibly similar countries like Australia. Unlike you, I choose to live in a country that reflects my values and lifestyle. You really should move to the US and enjoy all that prosperity you are so sure is coming under Trump.
Most people like me live in Canada or possibly similar countries like Australia. Unlike you, I choose to live in a country that reflects my values and lifestyle. You really should move to the US and enjoy all that prosperity you are so sure is coming under Trump.
Let's take a look at the Conservative Party in Canada and the large portion of the country which supports them -- https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...can-turn-out-msnbc.303962/page-2#post-4351845
Nice dodge. Europe is a disaster simply because of delusional morons, like yourself. In fact, you are European (British citizen) who immigrated to Canada. Speaks volumes.Most people like me live in Canada or possibly similar countries like Australia. Unlike you, I choose to live in a country that reflects my values and lifestyle. You really should move to the US and enjoy all that prosperity you are so sure is coming under Trump.
People like you are a danger to society because they resigned their self preservation instinct. They happily accept skyrocketing violent crime against women, children, and even their own culture, so they can virtue signal to their idiot friends how "Liberal" they are by accepting mass atrocities, usually on a daily basis.
You sicken me. As equally as I sicken you. Look at your friends in Europe. That's what your open-door, braindead immigration "philosophy" leads to.
I agree with everything you have said here and the linked post except I am more mixed on the H1B. There are stories of hiring H1B's because they are cheaper. But I think more now there is a lack of talent in the market and H1B's fill that. Further, I think that without an immigration plan, companies are more likely to outsoure offshore (especially tech work) and the country will lose the spending and tax revenues local employees would offer. In the 90's it was a scam to effectively hire indentured servants. I think modifications to the law have changed that. I'm not saying that the program shouldn't be modified, but I think there is a lot more to the story.
In the earlier days of the H1-B Visa, the program tended to bring over highly skilled IT workers that filled critical jobs, many at higher than market salaries.
Today the majority of H1-B Visas go to IT workers (many with limited skills) which work for Indian consulting firms (e.g. TCS, HCL, etc.) which pay them the $60,000 minimum (for H1-B) with no benefits. They then place these contractors into American companies as contractors and these Indian consulting firms make money on the per hour rate charged.
This, of course, leads to the displacement of American citizens in IT jobs and downward salary compression in the tech sector.
The way to fix the H1-B problem is simple IMO. Currently H1-B workers are basically indentured servants who cannot move to another employer. Pass a law which states H1-B workers can change employers at will for the length of their Visa. In this scenario, the free market will take care of the problem as most underpaid H1-B Visa workers immediately walk across the street (assuming they have the skills) to another employer to earn decent American IT salaries with benefits. Problem solved.