Tuesday Night Debate Could Prove Crucial

For the republican establishment, tonight's debate is a good news/bad news event. The good news is that the two candidates they most despise, Trump and Cruz, go into the debate after a week of sniping at each other. The bad news is that they are easily leading the race and one of them is likely to end up being the nominee.

The establishment and media's wet dream is the two heavyweights take each other out in a mud wrestling contest in front of horrified and repelled viewers. Certainly the media have been egging both men on, like schoolyard wimps trying to instigate a fight between two bullies.

Cruz's strategy thus far however has been exactly the opposite. He has done his best to stay in Trump's draft. This gives him two shots at a big prize, if not THE big prize. If Trump falters, he is the obvious backup. If Trump gets the nomination, who better to go on the ticket with him but the smartest guy in the field who also was his wingman in the campaign.

Trump by contrast has misstepped this week in criticizing Cruz, a fact noted with alarm by several conservative commentators who had been supportive of Trump. Trump seems in danger of the getting bogged down in the typical moderate republican quicksand, where they annoy the base by saying things like Trump's criticism of Justice Scalia and get absolutely nothing in return from the media. Trump also took Cruz to task for opposing the notorious ethanol mandate, one of the worst programs in an atrocious agriculture program.

People didn't care about Trump's previous record of being all over the map ideologically, since it came before he was in politics and he was the only candidate who stood with them on immigration. That may still be the case, but they seem to be giving Cruz a long look.
 
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Cruz is a master at debating, much more so than Trump. It will be interesting to see if he destroys Trump making him look a fool, or if Cruz goes easy on him.
 
I sense this debate could make or break the nomination for cruz tonight. He will be the second focal point for many people for the first time.
 
compared to the Hunger Games this aint nuthin. They'll all end up with jobs when it's all over.

refresh my memory, what exactly is it Rick Santorum does for a living?
 
Trump Cruz and Carson take 75% of republican votes. Whatever happens tonight we win. The American right has woken up to the endless lies of the GOP and their corporate controlled candidates.

Between the GOP front runners and sanders (another outsider), anti-establishment candidates take over 50 percent of the national votes.

Americans are wakin up. Sea change
 
Trump Cruz and Carson take 75% of republican votes. Whatever happens tonight we win. The American right has woken up to the endless lies of the GOP and their corporate controlled candidates.

Between the GOP front runners and sanders (another outsider), anti-establishment candidates take over 50 percent of the national votes.

Americans are wakin up. Sea change

It's an encouraging start, but the entrenched powers that be will not give up easily. For example, we got rid of loser Boehner but replace him with someone who may be worse.

We badly need a third party. There are a lot of voters, blue collar union guys for example, who can't stomach voting republican but are way out of step with the democrats.
 
It's an encouraging start, but the entrenched powers that be will not give up easily. For example, we got rid of loser Boehner but replace him with someone who may be worse.

We badly need a third party. There are a lot of voters, blue collar union guys for example, who can't stomach voting republican but are way out of step with the democrats.
Agreed. The top 3 GOP aren't so much different ideologically. If Cruz, Carson and Trump went third party, and agreed to throw their support behind the winner, the GOP would be rendered meaningless. Trump and Carson have already signaled their intent to leave the GOP if the convention gets thrown. I guess it logically follows the GOP will preempt that by giving the nomination to Cruz to split the vote, if it comes to that....

And good point about the blue collar folks. Party for the working man - bring manufacturing jobs back and cut taxes...
 
Crowd booed Trump when he called out Bush's dismal poll numbers.

Bush is in low single digits, and Trump polling near 40%. Always makes me wonder if these debate crowds get stacked with Rhino Republicans...
 
Crowd booed Trump when he called out Bush's dismal poll numbers.

Bush is in low single digits, and Trump polling near 40%. Always makes me wonder if these debate crowds get stacked with Rhino Republicans...
Yes, it's a conspiracy.
 
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