Tucker Carlson : Virus not as deadly as we thought it was.....

[Hotcakes]

Hmm.

Well the CDC has certainly been a disappointment.

Literally the first thing I wrote in matlab was a flexible csv file reader for large data that recognized data types and created the correct variables for strings or numbers and tolerated some errors and NaNs etc. It bypassed the interpreter and talked directly matlab's dll for data reading so it was really fast. Ancient history as most large data is hdf5 now.

But the CDC and NIH started using it and I exchanged a few emails with them. Also Imperial College in London and U.Penn neuro research labs. I wrote some medical imaging stuff for Imperial.

I thought the CDC was supposed to swing into action when we faced a pathogen like this. Instead they have sat there like the civil service slugs they all are. I honestly couldn't believe what they were saying and (not) doing during this. No wonder the idiots still use csv.

I think Trump has done a good job but he has got a clown show of agencies that are frozen in inaction and aren't getting with the program.

Research Fauci and Redfeild. Both have a long history of corruption within the Government.

Yes, it was one failure after another, after another, after another, after another, at the CDC. Wasn't it? They just couldn't grasp the concept of mass rapid testing. Despite Taiwan and South Korea exporting rapid-test kits and antibody test kits by the millions.

Curious none of us White Countries bought those test kits since our "Experts" couldn't figure out how to make their own?

Made the whole crisis alot worse, didn't it? Who gains from that?

 

[Hotcakes]

I think Trump has done a good job but he has got a clown show of agencies that are frozen in inaction and aren't getting with the program.

Trump is responsible for everything that happens in the Federal Government. Redfeild and the top management at CDC need to be eliminated. As does Fauci.

If Trump keeps them around, then Trump is to take all the blame for the next outbreak and their deaths. Redfeild and company clearly need to be removed with extreme prejudice.

 

[gwb-trading]

Research Fauci and Redfeild. Both have a long history of corruption within the Government.

Yes, it was one failure after another, after another, after another, after another, at the CDC. Wasn't it? They just couldn't grasp the concept of mass rapid testing. Despite Taiwan and South Korea exporting rapid-test kits and antibody test kits by the millions.

Curious none of us White Countries bought those test kits since our "Experts" couldn't figure out how to make their own?

Made the whole crisis alot worse, didn't it? Who gains from that?

You do realize that Germany and New Zealand are also leading countries in their response to the coronavirus. Both instituted wide-scale testing and full contact tracing.

The most critical part of the successful response of Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and New Zealand being full contact tracing.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Trump is responsible for everything that happens in the Federal Government. Redfeild and the top management at CDC need to be eliminated. As does Fauci.

If Trump keeps them around, then Trump is to take all the blame for the next outbreak and their deaths. Redfeild and company clearly need to be removed with extreme prejudice.

He is completely to blame for this outbreak already. Don't make it worse. When are you planning to inject bleach? We can show you how to live stream of you like.

 

[jem]

GWB... why do keep lying about Germany even though I gave this info to you?

Here Germany's lead guy... answers a question about testing....
more at the link.



Q: Should all countries be testing everybody?
A: I’m not sure. Even in Germany, with our huge testing capacity, and most of it directed to people reporting symptoms, we have not had a positivity rate above 8%. So I think targeted testing might be best, for people who are really vulnerable – staff in hospitals and care homes, for example. This is not fully in place even in Germany, though we’re moving towards it. The other target should be patients in the first week of symptoms, especially elderly patients who tend to come to hospital too late at the moment – when their lips are already blue and they need intubation. And we need some kind of sentinel surveillance system, to sample the population regularly and follow the development of the reproduction number.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-drosten-germany-coronavirus-expert-interview

You do realize that Germany and New Zealand are also leading countries in their response to the coronavirus. Both instituted wide-scale testing and full contact tracing.

The most critical part of the successful response of Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and New Zealand being full contact tracing.

 

[gwb-trading]

Once again we see the myth of the great govt... testers...
its utter fabrication...

Here Germany lead guy... answers a question about testing....
more at the link.



Q: Should all countries be testing everybody?
A: I’m not sure. Even in Germany, with our huge testing capacity, and most of it directed to people reporting symptoms, we have not had a positivity rate above 8%. So I think targeted testing might be best, for people who are really vulnerable – staff in hospitals and care homes, for example. This is not fully in place even in Germany, though we’re moving towards it. The other target should be patients in the first week of symptoms, especially elderly patients who tend to come to hospital too late at the moment – when their lips are already blue and they need intubation. And we need some kind of sentinel surveillance system, to sample the population regularly and follow the development of the reproduction number.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-drosten-germany-coronavirus-expert-interview

Once again -- when you have proper Contact Tracing it reduces the need for testing. You only have to test people know to have contact with an infected person. You don't have to randomly test your entire population. How many times do I have to state this before it sinks in?

This is why Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and New Zealand have been so successful.

 

[gwb-trading]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1254756982822768640

 

[Bugenhagen]

Just a jem black hole..

 

[jem]

you are so full of shit about this its sickening... I have told you many times cases have to be much lower or the R0 has to be low to have testing and tracing work...

so sickly full of shit... you are


from yesterday...
By Kai Kupferschmidt, Gretchen VogelApr. 27, 2020 , 2:35 PM

“If you can get new cases low enough that you can follow everyone,” Schmidt-Chanasit explains, health authorities can isolate all their contacts, ideally keeping the virus under control for the longer term. Germany does not have the capacity to do contact tracing at the current number of patients, but waiting a few more weeks might bring the daily caseload to a manageable level and also allow time to develop a phone app to aid contact tracers, Drosten says.


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...many-s-much-praised-coronavirus-response-risk

Once again -- when you have proper Contact Tracing it reduces the need for testing. You only have to test people know to have contact with an infected person. You don't have to randomly test your entire population. How many times do I have to state this before it sinks in?

This is why Germany, South Korea, Taiwan, and New Zealand have been so successful.

 

[gwb-trading]

you are so full of shit about this its sickening... I have told you many times cases have to be much lower or the R0 has to be low to have testing and tracing work...

so sickly full of shit... you are


from yesterday...
By Kai Kupferschmidt, Gretchen VogelApr. 27, 2020 , 2:35 PM

“If you can get new cases low enough that you can follow everyone,” Schmidt-Chanasit explains, health authorities can isolate all their contacts, ideally keeping the virus under control for the longer term. Germany does not have the capacity to do contact tracing at the current number of patients, but waiting a few more weeks might bring the daily caseload to a manageable level and also allow time to develop a phone app to aid contact tracers, Drosten says.


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...many-s-much-praised-coronavirus-response-risk

At mentioned in the press regularly - Taiwan, South Korea, and Germany have driven their R effective infection rate to 0.7 or 0.8. If the rate rises to 1.2 then they will re-introduce lockdown measures as needed.

Keep in mind that R0 or Rnaught is the raw reproduction rate with no mitigation. This number is above 2 for COVID-19.

Let's go through the info again... the concerns of these scientists you quoted is that Germany would not have enough resources to do contact tracing again if they opened up the country. There are plenty of other sources showing the contact tracing used in Germany is wide-scale and successful. Let's show some quotes from an in-depth article.

How Germany meticulously traced its coronavirus outbreak
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020...meticulously-traced-its-coronavirus-outbreak/

"The country's methodical search for transmission chains has so far resulted in some of the lowest death rates in Europe

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“We learned that we must meticulously trace chains of infection in order to interrupt them,” Clemens Wendtner, the doctor who treated the Munich patients, told Reuters.


Wendtner teamed up with some of Germany’s top scientists to tackle what became known as the ‘Munich cluster,’ and they advised the Bavarian government on how to respond. Bavaria led the way with the lockdowns, which went nationwide on March 22.


Scientists including England’s Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty have credited Germany’s early, widespread testing with slowing the spread of the virus. “‘We all know Germany got ahead in terms of its ability to do testing for the virus and there’s a lot to learn from that,’” he said on TV earlier this week.

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It is interesting that the privacy debate has boiled over in Germany in regards to electronic Contact Tracing. In the past couple of days the government agreed to go with a decentralized solution.

Germany ditches centralized approach to app for covid-19 contact tracing
https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/27/g...pproach-to-app-for-covid-19-contacts-tracing/