$TSLA

[Pekelo]

this is why Musk gets tired of the questions because

...he doesn't have a good answer. The numbers don't lie. The more cars they make (with much higher price than 35K) the more money they lose. Explain that.

Also it is fairly easy to estimate a car's cost when you take it apart, as Munroe did.

But anyway, you missed the important part of the post: there is no more than maybe 30K-40K annual demand for a 50K EV. Explain that away! Who is going to by the extra 160K cars what Tesla produces? (if they ever grow up to mass produce a car)

 

[sellindexvol66]

...he doesn't have a good answer. The numbers don't lie. The more cars they make (with much higher price than 35K) the more money they lose. Explain that.

Also it is fairly easy to estimate a car's cost when you take it apart, as Munroe did.

But anyway, you missed the important part of the post: there is no more than maybe 30K-40K annual demand for a 50K EV. Explain that away! Who is going to by the extra 160K cars what Tesla produces? (if they ever grow up to mass produce a car)

the demand issue you raise on $50k + vehicles i agree with. without much work you can see that with sales of of similar priced ICE cars.

here is some statistical reality:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/05/0...lling-car-in-usa-15-in-may-6-in-june-or-july/

my contention is 40k and under will see unlimited sales and they will make money (thanks to a lower cost to build product that is superior to all others, including other EV's)

we as usual disagree tremendously on every point.

 

[Cdntrader]

If you use this kind of assumptions the only truth is: believers are the only people who are honest and know the truth.

It's kind of a dogma. What you tell is the only truth. Why? Because YOU told it.

That kind of arguments are pure nonsense, and they are used if there are no real arguments.

Sounds like you are a short. Good luck with that.

Personally I don't have a clue where it's going. But its fun to watch folks try to short story stocks that are still in play.

 

[schweiz]

Sounds like you are a short. Good luck with that.

Don't have even any position. Make good money with less risk and higher success probability elsewhere.
But I have my opinion on Tesla.
I don't rely on luck in trading.

 

[nursebee]

Does anyone else even have any skin in the game on TSLA?

 

[truetype]

Does anyone else even have any skin in the game on TSLA?

I've traded it back and forth a few times this year, luckily for a profit -- which isn't always the case with my stock trading!

 

[Pekelo]

Sellindex, I didn't read your last post and as a prevention I will put you on Ignore. There is just so much I can take from a cool aid drinker, Elon worshiper. See you at the bankruptcy hearings...

For your education though, from one of the best SA contributors:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/41...d-10-q?app=1&uprof=51&isDirectRoadblock=false

"Add that $35,100 to the $36,000 that Munro & Associates suggests is the Model 3's COGS, and each Model 3 now rolls off the line with a total cost of about $70,000."

 

[sellindexvol66]

Sellindex, I didn't read your last post and as a prevention I will put you on Ignore. There is just so much I can take from a cool aid drinker, Elon worshiper. See you at the bankruptcy hearings...

For your education though, from one of the best SA contributors:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/41...d-10-q?app=1&uprof=51&isDirectRoadblock=false

"Add that $35,100 to the $36,000 that Munro & Associates suggests is the Model 3's COGS, and each Model 3 now rolls off the line with a total cost of about $70,000."

someone i respect said many years ago, "there you go again"

i see you as a kool aid drinking hater for the sake of hate and envy of us (car) owners , the company, and Musk

Munro is a big auto stooge ..here is data on model 3 margin completely the opposite of your cherry picking:

https://insideevs.com/profit-target-tesla-model-3-five-times-higher-fords/

the truth is somewhere in the middle obviously.

cheers

 

[Saltynuts]

I'm starting a shorting program on this turd tomorrow. Not big, but will be shorting ~$3000 worth of stock a week, for at least the next year. So, at current prices 10 shares a week, adjusted, maybe ratcheted up slowly over time, for a week. Selling every Friday, waiting for that Monday plunge that will surely come. If it takes 2 years, I don't care. This turd will come back down to earth, and I think much, much sooner than a year.

 

[Pekelo]

I'm starting a shorting program on this turd tomorrow.

Sell vertical calls 30-50 bucks above the current price. You get a better return on your time and money...This might need another 6 months before it breaks down...