Trying to Manage these Trading Combines. Anyone else?

caacapital said:
Apex is a 1 time fee OR a monthly fee to me it only kind of makes sense to pay the 1 time fee if your doing the 25k or 50k and thats only if you have proven you can last more than a month in a funded account most people blow these accounts within a week.

150k is a 260 fee most people should just opt to pay the 85/month 260 is near 3 months of fees ideally you would have taken at the very least 1 max payout in this time frame that makes your monthly fee null. but if you fail within the first 5 days like most will your out 175(260-85)

Apex doesnt put any orders live initially you really have to be pulling out regular withdrawals for them to move you to a live account the model for these companies is based on stats and human psychology most people will fail the evaluations and if they make it to funded they will fail. I agree copying accounts is more likely to lead to blowing the accounts faster but the idea is to make use of not needing to go for thousand dollar days and to get by the withdrawal limits set for the first 3 months. 1 account with a 2k max payout 10 accounts with a 2k max payout each is 20k
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The thing is, most people who do these kind of evaluations have very unrealistic expectations.

With the $50K account you can withdraw $4K per month for the first 3 months and then unlimited after that, why wouldn't that be enough?
 
It's not "enough" because it's their money, not APEX's. They should be able to withdraw their profits at any time. Period. But wait - they also have to cover that $6,000+ activation fee before they make any profit at all. You're working for APEX. And APEX is going to blow up - big time. Guaranteed.
 
p0box4 said:
The thing is, most people who do these kind of evaluations have very unrealistic expectations.

With the $50K account you can withdraw $4K per month for the first 3 months and then unlimited after that, why wouldn't that be enough?
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That's what you're hoping for, right? More resets, more subscriptions? The activation fee on a $50,000 would be $2,800 for 20 accounts. If the blasted business model is so unrealistic, why are you offering it???? Guess what - it's a cash cow, rinse and repeat. Blow up time is coming.
 
p0box4 said:
Who would ever trade 20 accounts at once?
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When you have ZERO skills,
You rely on luck.

Luckily, one of these will be a success.

Sell -> Sell -> -10 (Failed)
Sell -> Buy -> -5 (Failed)
Buy -> Sell -> +5 (Failed)
Buy -> Buy -> +10 (Passed)

Might be worth the investment,
Who knows …

If you pass 2 combines,
You buy some ES in one account,
You sell some ES in one account.

At the end you might end up with 50k - costs
 
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Sekiyo said:
When you have ZERO skills,
You rely on luck.

Luckily, one of these will be a success.

Sell -> Sell -> -10 (Failed)
Sell -> Buy -> -5 (Failed)
Buy -> Sell -> +5 (Failed)
Buy -> Buy -> +10 (Passed)

Might be worth the investment,
Who knows …

If you pass 2 combines,
You buy some ES in one account,
You sell some ES in one account.

At the end you might end up with 50k - costs
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That's not what the guys with 20 accounts are doing.
They are copying the exact same trades in each account, makes 0 sense.
 
goto quit my dayjob and trade from a yacht $4k isnt going to cut it. agree with unrealistic exceptions this is also pushed by the companies they expect you to make 100% in 7-15 days or at a min 30 days if you dont want to be rebilled.


p0box4 said:
The thing is, most people who do these kind of evaluations have very unrealistic expectations.

With the $50K account you can withdraw $4K per month for the first 3 months and then unlimited after that, why wouldn't that be enough?
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p0box4 said:
That's not what the guys with 20 accounts are doing.
They are copying the exact same trades in each account, makes 0 sense.
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It would make sense for someone who duplicates their trades for clients, family or friends. Not something I would want to do but it would make sense for some.
 
Topstep said:
They sell multiple accounts for cheap so they can ding you on the backside with activation fees for the accounts you pass.
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But no-one forces anyone to buy multiple accounts :).

If you compare 1 account vs 1 account it's clear who has the better offer, at least in my opinion.

As i have stated before, it's stupid to buy multiple accounts, but it's even more stupid to compare the cost of 20 accounts vs the cost of 1 account, like Ztrader does.
 
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