Trying to Manage these Trading Combines. Anyone else?

[caacapital]

isnt savius a more expensive topstep? I started a static UProifit account Thursday its down now though. Also with Uprofit you dont have to wait 40 days if you dont want to anything over your starting balance you can withdrawal they will just take 50% instead of 20%. Ive done this several times with no issue next day payout.

Happy Holidays Everyone.

So, from September to now the payout I received from Savius LLC was about $9032. The payments went to my account on the 14th of the month. Although my last payment of 3831.60 was on the 21st of this month because of some miscommunication on their part, I do not have any issues with this company. Customer service on the platform is good, they are more on the technical side of things, emailing responses takes a day to several days to be replied to sometimes. They have a discord, but I do not participate, don’t really understand discords to be honest . My account does not look too well, I have about $100 left to trade with sadly. I can come back from that, but the odds are not in my favor .

Oh, forgot to mention that their platform does not lag, and execution is on point with the VolSys. I did not get any slippage on the Non-Farm Payroll stopped out trade compared to rhitimic on the NT with a different company that day of twice my stop fyi.


My two favorite firms in the trading category thus far are Savius and Uprofit. Uprofit just gained more props for having the static drawdown which is a big deal.

One of my main issues with Uprofit is besides the 40 days wait for full 80% profit split, is that they do not have scaling in the evaluation but do in the live account. That is a psychological disadvantage for a trader unless that trader does the scaling in the evaluation on their own to prepare for the live account which would be wise.


I am doing my best not to lose the Savius account. If I can make 150 then 500 dollars that would be a huge confidence boost. I may try the Uprofit, just gotta look to see if I can afford it. I read also that the one-time fee is 150 for this account so that’s 500 total provided that I passed.

 

[legionx]

I don’t think so that Savius is more expensive than TopStep since you get back your refund after passing Step 4. Also if you’re in the positive on the evaluation they would just extend your evaluation for free until you pass. Not sure why they don’t announce the extension. Savius has a better career path than anyone else when it comes to the futures imo. Waiting for one to implement free spa treatment per month, medical, health etc along with increasing my drawdown once I bring in the profits.

 

[caacapital]

I just looked them up the DD trails why not just do apex or leeloo much cheaper

I don’t think so that Savius is more expensive than TopStep since you get back your refund after passing Step 4. Also if you’re in the positive on the evaluation they would just extend your evaluation for free until you pass. Not sure why they don’t announce the extension. Savius has a better career path than anyone else when it comes to the futures imo. Waiting for one to implement free spa treatment per month, medical, health etc along with increasing my drawdown once I bring in the profits.

 

[legionx]

Nope. Live trailing drawdown is a terrible characteristic of trading. Cheap things when added up become expensive. I rather take my chances with EOD and Savius’ drawdown. Less calculation equals less stress.

 

[ZTrader888]

I just looked them up the DD trails why not just do apex or leeloo much cheaper

Darrell Martin was with LeeLee and now has APEX. APEX has HUGE activation fees - if you signed up for the $150,000 account with their max accounts (20), your activation fee after you pass the evaluation would be $6,000 to start trading. Wouldn't trust Martin and his shenanigans. He has a history with NADEX and LeeLoo.

 

[p0box4]

Darrell Martin was with LeeLee and now has APEX. APEX has HUGE activation fees - if you signed up for the $150,000 account with their max accounts (20), your activation fee after you pass the evaluation would be $6,000 to start trading. Wouldn't trust Martin and his shenanigans. He has a history with NADEX and LeeLoo.

Who would ever trade 20 accounts at once? 0 advantage in that (yes i know it will be automated with the copier), but what kind of rills are you going to expect if your orders even would go live? If you trade the max, 17 contacts per account, times 20. Good luck getting a good fill in some markets.

Anyway, Apex is by far the best choice out there after they made those recent changes (2 payouts per month, first payout possible after 10 days, 100% of first $25K, after 90% for trader, one time activation fee) and they are working on evaluation accounts with end of day drawdown as well.

And sure, they have a fee for startup (on time fee possible recently), but they also run regular 80% and now even a 90% discount on your evaluation account, so in the end it won't be that much more.

 

[caacapital]

Savius is trailing according to their website i dont see any advantage to using them 6 steps 2 contracts max trailing dd there are better options that cost much less.

Nope. Live trailing drawdown is a terrible characteristic of trading. Cheap things when added up become expensive. I rather take my chances with EOD and Savius’ drawdown. Less calculation equals less stress.

 

[caacapital]

Apex is a 1 time fee OR a monthly fee to me it only kind of makes sense to pay the 1 time fee if your doing the 25k or 50k and thats only if you have proven you can last more than a month in a funded account most people blow these accounts within a week.

150k is a 260 fee most people should just opt to pay the 85/month 260 is near 3 months of fees ideally you would have taken at the very least 1 max payout in this time frame that makes your monthly fee null. but if you fail within the first 5 days like most will your out 175(260-85)

Apex doesnt put any orders live initially you really have to be pulling out regular withdrawals for them to move you to a live account the model for these companies is based on stats and human psychology most people will fail the evaluations and if they make it to funded they will fail. I agree copying accounts is more likely to lead to blowing the accounts faster but the idea is to make use of not needing to go for thousand dollar days and to get by the withdrawal limits set for the first 3 months. 1 account with a 2k max payout 10 accounts with a 2k max payout each is 20k

Who would ever trade 20 accounts at once? 0 advantage in that (yes i know it will be automated with the copier), but what kind of rills are you going to expect if your orders even would go live? If you trade the max, 17 contacts per account, times 20. Good luck getting a good fill in some markets.

Anyway, Apex is by far the best choice out there after they made those recent changes (2 payouts per month, first payout possible after 10 days, 100% of first $25K, after 90% for trader, one time activation fee) and they are working on evaluation accounts with end of day drawdown as well.

And sure, they have a fee for startup (on time fee possible recently), but they also run regular 80% and now even a 90% discount on your evaluation account, so in the end it won't be that much more.

 

[ZTrader888]

Who would ever trade 20 accounts at once? 0 advantage in that (yes i know it will be automated with the copier), but what kind of rills are you going to expect if your orders even would go live? If you trade the max, 17 contacts per account, times 20. Good luck getting a good fill in some markets.

Anyway, Apex is by far the best choice out there after they made those recent changes (2 payouts per month, first payout possible after 10 days, 100% of first $25K, after 90% for trader, one time activation fee) and they are working on evaluation accounts with end of day drawdown as well.

And sure, they have a fee for startup (on time fee possible recently), but they also run regular 80% and now even a 90% discount on your evaluation account, so in the end it won't be that much more.

You must be smoking some strong stuff. They reduced the evaluation time to 7 days. All that does is attract more wannabe traders who will fail faster and generate reset fees for APEX. The activation fee is HUGE. If you're willing to pay $6,000, why don't you just open your own brokerage account?

And who would trade 20 accounts? If it's no one, why do they offer it?

I think you probably work for APEX. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see right through their strategy - it's a ponzi scheme.

 

[p0box4]

You must be smoking some strong stuff. They reduced the evaluation time to 7 days. All that does is attract more wannabe traders who will fail faster and generate reset fees for APEX. The activation fee is HUGE. If you're willing to pay $6,000, why don't you just open your own brokerage account?

And who would trade 20 accounts? If it's no one, why do they offer it?

I think you probably work for APEX. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see right through their strategy - it's a ponzi scheme.

Lol, clown.

It sounds more like you are working for some other funding firm and can't compete with Apex.

Nobody forces you to open 20 accounts at once, i even think that's a very stupid thing to do, which i have mentioned earlier. If you had half a brain you would have seen that.

Almost all your recent posts of the last few years were regarding these kind of funding companies, so it's clear who works for one now and it isn't me.

Welcome to my ignore list.