Trump's State of the Union Address Tonight

I love being a liberal, i don't like all the dainty flowers that surround some of the ideas they come up with on both sides. Apparently Russians hacked in the dnc servers and exposed some damaging info on Clinton. Seems like Clinton was part of the good ole boy club and got some help from her friends.
She probably should of been exposed she was not quite right.
This does not excuse A foreign state from hacking a political party in our country.


It doesn't matter what side of the aisle your on. You should be against it as a person of any country other than say Russia.


Clinton never got in Obama is gone Trump is president move on.

It was Karma.

Obama should not have visited Britain during the last week of the BREXIT vote and campaigned for Britain to stay in the EU.

It was inappropriate and it swung back on him.
 
this was mentioned earlier in the thread.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/14/irs-weakens-enforcement-obamacare-individual-manda/

The IRS will not require that tax returns indicate that a person has health insurance under Obamacare — a decision that Reason magazine called a major blow to the law’s individual mandate.

In a statement to Reason, which first reported the policy Tuesday night, the IRS said it was responding to an order from President Trump to reduce the Affordable Care Act’s burdens on the American taxpayer.

“The recent executive order directed federal agencies to exercise authority and discretion available to them to reduce potential burden,” the IRS said in its statement. “Consistent with that, the IRS has decided to make changes that would continue to allow electronic and paper returns to be accepted for processing in instances where a taxpayer doesn’t indicate their coverage status.”
 
I don't believe in karma per say, (she never did anything for me) and didn't follow the link between what i was talking about Russia and the Brexit vote.

Brexit was a vote by a country to leave the EU. Russia made a decision to hack into some servers.
Politicians are constantly backing other countries agenda's openly for there domestic gain. Trump said he supported Brexit if i remember correct but its irrelevant as well.

I am sure you would like to know if there is link between Russia and Trump.
 
He said nearly 3 Trillion in wealth has been created since the election. I have no doubt that the market caps across the board probably total that gain.... but is wealth really "created" in that regard? Seems like its just moved around. Right?


No, it was created.

The total value of the stock market gained in value by 3TN.

It wasn't moved around, someone had to shell out x dollars to move the stock higher.

If 3TN was not created, then that means that higher gas prices are only an illusion and rising gold prices don't matter.

It's real money.
 
I don't believe in karma per say, (she never did anything for me) and didn't follow the link between what i was talking about Russia and the Brexit vote.

Brexit was a vote by a country to leave the EU. Russia made a decision to hack into some servers.
Politicians are constantly backing other countries agenda's openly for there domestic gain. Trump said he supported Brexit if i remember correct but its irrelevant as well.

I am sure you would like to know if there is link between Russia and Trump.

I would, and Hillary too.

I don't want any foreign govts. influencing our election, even if it is a passive remark made in a random interview thousands of miles away.

What I was implying is that it was wrong for a sitting president to leave the country and fly 5000 miles to England and openly campaign for a domestic issue for another country.

And because he did this, karma paid him back with Hillary losing as well as the British voting to leave the EU.

The BREXIT vote was scheduled for months. It was not inappropriate for Trump to comment on it because he was a candidate but he did not fly 5000 miles with the intent of persuading voters to vote one way or the other.
 


No, it was created.

The total value of the stock market gained in value by 3TN.

It wasn't moved around, someone had to shell out x dollars to move the stock higher.

If 3TN was not created, then that means that higher gas prices are only an illusion and rising gold prices don't matter.

It's real money.

It was just money that was not in the markets moving in. I'm not sure that can be considered creating wealth. I mean it has made people wealthier.... I guess its semantics. If I own a piece of land and one day strike oil and sell it, thats creating wealth. Maybe its the same.. I dunno.... beyond me bro.
 
It was just money that was not in the markets moving in. I'm not sure that can be considered creating wealth. I mean it has made people wealthier.... I guess its semantics. If I own a piece of land and one day strike oil and sell it, thats creating wealth. Maybe its the same.. I dunno.... beyond me bro.


I know what you are saying.......but if your home and your next door neighbor's are similar and your neighbor sells his for 200k....and you paid 150k for yours...........then you have a home worth 200K with 50K in equity.

I know what you are saying...'basically, it 's not real money unless it's in your bank account'....but it still counts as value........
 
I would, and Hillary too.

I don't want any foreign govts. influencing our election, even if it is a passive remark made in a random interview thousands of miles away.

What I was implying is that it was wrong for a sitting president to leave the country and fly 5000 miles to England and openly campaign for a domestic issue for another country.

And because he did this, karma paid him back with Hillary losing as well as the British voting to leave the EU.

The BREXIT vote was scheduled for months. It was not inappropriate for Trump to comment on it because he was a candidate but he did not fly 5000 miles with the intent of persuading voters to vote one way or the other.
I would, and Hillary too.

I don't want any foreign govts. influencing our election, even if it is a passive remark made in a random interview thousands of miles away.

What I was implying is that it was wrong for a sitting president to leave the country and fly 5000 miles to England and openly campaign for a domestic issue for another country.

And because he did this, karma paid him back with Hillary losing as well as the British voting to leave the EU.

The BREXIT vote was scheduled for months. It was not inappropriate for Trump to comment on it because he was a candidate but he did not fly 5000 miles with the intent of persuading voters to vote one way or the other.

Passive remarks are permissible the world over, i don't always like them either.
Active cyber crimes are not but happen all the time as well.
I really can't follow your logic with Obama to Brexit to Hillary losing.

I was really only talking about Russia. (What does Karma have for TRUMP and Russia- i am not really sure how it works and you seem to have it down pretty good)
 
Since you people are from the same basket and have the same mental capacity, can you tell us why your president does not want to release his Tax returns? What is he hiding?

Earth calling deplorable!

C’mon deplorable answer please!:D


Spoken like a true Liberal...divert attention away from the facts with name calling and changing the subject to suggest impropriety. It has already been established that he likely paid ZERO taxes for the last several years because of a big loss (billions of dollars) for which he writes off future gains. Similar to what you and Surf will be doing when you see your losses pile up on your account statements this year. When you actually make money you can write those off to offset taxes you would otherwise pay. So what,...he plays the system to its fullest and uses it to his advantage. That's what any prudent business man would do.

By the way, Warren Buffet also has openly admitted to paying less in taxes than his own secretary. Why is that? Is he a cheat/liar/sneak? No, he like Trump is using the tax code to its proper end and maximizing his take home.
 
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