Good luck with that.
Trump's brownshirts/juntas now disappearing people.
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Cotton Compares Portland BLM Protesters To Confederate Secessionists
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...d-blm-protesters-to-confederate-secessionists
Two things that are the same to Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): Demonstrators in Portland, Oregon protesting against racist police brutality, and pro-slavery insurgents in the South breaking from the Union to preserve slavery.
“These insurrectionists in the streets of Portland are little different from the insurrectionists who seceded from the Union in 1861 in South Carolina and tried to take over Fort Sumter,” Cotton argued during a “Fox and Friends” interview on Tuesday morning.
“And just like President Lincoln wouldn’t stand for that, the federal government today cannot stand for the vandalism, the fire bombing or any attacks on federal property,” the senator added.
(More at above url)
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...d-blm-protesters-to-confederate-secessionists
Two things that are the same to Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): Demonstrators in Portland, Oregon protesting against racist police brutality, and pro-slavery insurgents in the South breaking from the Union to preserve slavery.
“These insurrectionists in the streets of Portland are little different from the insurrectionists who seceded from the Union in 1861 in South Carolina and tried to take over Fort Sumter,” Cotton argued during a “Fox and Friends” interview on Tuesday morning.
“And just like President Lincoln wouldn’t stand for that, the federal government today cannot stand for the vandalism, the fire bombing or any attacks on federal property,” the senator added.
(More at above url)
An interesting run through it here. A few bits, going to be lots court time on this.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland
There is some federal property in Portland, but not much. And federal law enforcement officers do not generally have the authority (under federal law, anyway) to enforce state laws on nonfederal property. Some of Acting Secretary Wolf’s statements have referred to vandalism of “courthouses,” including the three federal courthouses in downtown Portland. And there are a handful of other federal buildings in the city. But this is where the Portland situation starts to look very different from D.C. Protecting a federal courthouse from vandalism is an easy case for the use of federal law enforcement authorities. If, as media reports have suggested, federal officers are patrolling streets a significant distance from federal buildings (and arresting protestors who pose no imminent threat thereto), that would be far murkier.
Like most states, Oregon does authorize federal officers to enforce state law. Under Oregon Revised Statutes § 133.245, a federal officer may arrest any person “[f]or any crime committed in the federal officer’s presence if the federal officer has probable cause to believe the person committed the crime.” The statute also provides, however, that “[t]he federal officer shall inform the person to be arrested of the federal officer’s authority and reason for the arrest,” and that “[a] federal officer making an arrest under this section without unnecessary delay shall take the arrested person before a magistrate or deliver the arrested person to a peace officer.” (The statute also allows the federal officer to use the same physical force that a local or state officer would be allowed to use in effectuating the arrest.) In other words, federal law enforcement officers in Portland could have the legal authority to arrest individuals when they have probable cause for violations of federal or state law—but in the latter case, there are statutory notice and transfer requirements that, if media reports are accurate, are not being honored. But the Oregon statute also requires state certification that federal officers have received proper training before effectuating arrests under state law before such arrests can happen. Suffice it to say, it is hardly clear that any of the federal officers have received such certification here.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland
There is some federal property in Portland, but not much. And federal law enforcement officers do not generally have the authority (under federal law, anyway) to enforce state laws on nonfederal property. Some of Acting Secretary Wolf’s statements have referred to vandalism of “courthouses,” including the three federal courthouses in downtown Portland. And there are a handful of other federal buildings in the city. But this is where the Portland situation starts to look very different from D.C. Protecting a federal courthouse from vandalism is an easy case for the use of federal law enforcement authorities. If, as media reports have suggested, federal officers are patrolling streets a significant distance from federal buildings (and arresting protestors who pose no imminent threat thereto), that would be far murkier.
Like most states, Oregon does authorize federal officers to enforce state law. Under Oregon Revised Statutes § 133.245, a federal officer may arrest any person “[f]or any crime committed in the federal officer’s presence if the federal officer has probable cause to believe the person committed the crime.” The statute also provides, however, that “[t]he federal officer shall inform the person to be arrested of the federal officer’s authority and reason for the arrest,” and that “[a] federal officer making an arrest under this section without unnecessary delay shall take the arrested person before a magistrate or deliver the arrested person to a peace officer.” (The statute also allows the federal officer to use the same physical force that a local or state officer would be allowed to use in effectuating the arrest.) In other words, federal law enforcement officers in Portland could have the legal authority to arrest individuals when they have probable cause for violations of federal or state law—but in the latter case, there are statutory notice and transfer requirements that, if media reports are accurate, are not being honored. But the Oregon statute also requires state certification that federal officers have received proper training before effectuating arrests under state law before such arrests can happen. Suffice it to say, it is hardly clear that any of the federal officers have received such certification here.
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does that make them “fine people?”
Not my prosecution.
Federal officers who are very unlikely to be certified by the state to exercise local law, far from their buildings..
I hope not but someone I fear is going to bring their black tips to this party and we won't know of its Boogaloo false flag or other.
Perhaps that is the plan.
damn...
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...overly-militarized-federal-agents-in-portland
Pentagon Troubled By Overly Militarized Federal Agents in Portland
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has raised concerns within the administration about President Donald Trump’s decision to deploy forces who look like soldiers to protest sites.
DEFENSE SECRETARY MARK Esper has expressed concern within the Trump administration that federal law enforcement personnel President Donald Trump has dispatched to Portland, Oregon, to protect monuments and federal buildings may be confused with military troops, according to a Defense Department official.
"We saw this take place back in June," Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a press conference Tuesday afternoon. "Some law enforcement make them appear military in appearance."
"The secretary has expressed concern of this within the administration," Hoffman said. "We want a system where people can tell the difference."
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...overly-militarized-federal-agents-in-portland
Pentagon Troubled By Overly Militarized Federal Agents in Portland
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has raised concerns within the administration about President Donald Trump’s decision to deploy forces who look like soldiers to protest sites.
DEFENSE SECRETARY MARK Esper has expressed concern within the Trump administration that federal law enforcement personnel President Donald Trump has dispatched to Portland, Oregon, to protect monuments and federal buildings may be confused with military troops, according to a Defense Department official.
"We saw this take place back in June," Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a press conference Tuesday afternoon. "Some law enforcement make them appear military in appearance."
"The secretary has expressed concern of this within the administration," Hoffman said. "We want a system where people can tell the difference."
Yeah, damn. That's a major development. Got a guy at the Pentagon who is concerned that (supposed) Trump's LEOs are wearing fatigues like the military does.