Trump's brownshirts/juntas now disappearing people.

No emergency declared, no ATF or FBI involved, so what the hell is BP doing nabbing citizens w/o Mirandizing them and ultimately putting them on the docket?

Border patrol is a branch of the DHS who operates in the same jurisdiction as the ATF, FBI, and DEA. We can thank Bush and the PATRIOT act for making that happen. Is it possible BP was involved because they are within 100 miles of a national border?
 
Border patrol is a branch of the DHS who operates in the same jurisdiction as the ATF, FBI, and DEA. We can thank Bush and the PATRIOT act for making that happen. Is it possible BP was involved because they are within 100 miles of a national border?

Squelching citizen protests is outside their purview.
 
Squelching citizen protests is outside their purview.

Again. Someone who appears to be a protester could be a violent member of BLM or antifa. You can commit crimes one day and come dressed for church the next. Don't get confused by looks and ask the real question - "well, what crimes were committed". Like I said. I'm erring on the side of these things being done under the insurrection act or the executive order. If they aren't I'll change my mind. It just appears to me to be similar to a coordinated raid on gang members. It's too early to jump to conclusions otherwise and in a week or so I'm pretty sure we'll hear the crimes these people committed due to how "loud" this was. These were highly targeted. If they were just nabbing protesters it wouldn't have been so organized.
 
These are not protesters, they are extremely violent criminals who should be shot while engaging in criminal activities. I'll settle for arresting them, for now. At some point the kiddie gloves must come off.
 
Again. Someone who appears to be a protester could be a violent member of BLM or antifa. You can commit crimes one day and come dressed for church the next. Don't get confused by looks and ask the real question - "well, what crimes were committed". Like I said. I'm erring on the side of these things being done under the insurrection act or the executive order. If they aren't I'll change my mind. It just appears to me to be similar to a coordinated raid on gang members. It's too early to jump to conclusions otherwise and in a week or so I'm pretty sure we'll hear the crimes these people committed due to how "loud" this was. These were highly targeted. If they were just nabbing protesters it wouldn't have been so organized.

Erring by being wrong is your dilemma. I'm erring on hundreds of years of authoritarian history. FWIW, dude was let go w/o being charged so this is clearly just intimidation tactics. You can read all of BP's bullshit excuse making here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/
https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...sts-president-trump-federal-officers-1030441/

Almost as suddenly as they had grabbed him off the street, the men let him go. The federal officers who snatched him off the street as he was walking home from a peaceful protest did not tell him why he had been detained or provide him any record of an arrest, he told The Post. As far as he knows, he has not been charged with any crimes. And, Pettibone said, he did not know who detained him.

“I just happened to be wearing black on a sidewalk in downtown Portland at the time,” Pettibone told OPB. “And that apparently is grounds for detaining me.” (While the U.S. Marshal Service told OPB it wouldn’t comment on whether it used unmarked vehicles to ambush and arrest peaceful protesters, it did confirm that the agency “did not arrest or detain Mark James Pettibone.”)
 
The US has been in a perpetual state of national emergency since 1979.

I misspoke. The federal government doesn't need a national emergency to intervene. They can only enforce federal law.

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...tatues-and-combating-recent-criminal-violence

This is an executive order that declares people destroying federal property to be felons.

The insurrection act authorizes the president to deploy federal forces to quell rebellion.


As long as the people who are arrested here are guilty of something under the insurrection act or under the new executive order these operations are entirely legal. I will change my mind, obviously, if this isn't true but for now I am assuming that this is the way they are operating.

Got it, next time right wingers threaten elected officials with a gun show, they can be abducted by a secret police.

Thanks for clearing it up for the Biden administration.
 
1. Are statues being vandalized on Federal property?
2. Is local law enforcement being prevented by the Governor from acting to protect Federal Property? If so, the Federal Government is reasonable in deploying Federal police in protecting property under its jurisdiction.

The failure of this Governor to act against a known threat may make her an accessory to vandalism. Perhaps the Governor is a state level leader of these criminal vandals. Any Governor who fails to act appropiately to destruction of property in their state should be investigated for organized criminal associations.

Media organizations and national politicians who support criminal activities should be investigated as well. Where reporting or political action is designed to incite riots, criminal charges should be levied against the offenders, whoever they are.


Trump's failure to act against a known threat (Corona virus) makes him an accessory to murder for all those that died I guess....

See how your logic works...
 
and now the narrative of the "commies are siding w/antifa thugs instead of our men in blue" is painted. Righties will lap it up unbeknownst to them the fight is for their civil liberties:

https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/...ues-feds-over-arrests-of-portland-protesters-

Oregon AG sues feds over arrests of Portland protesters
Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum announced the lawsuit and an investigation on July 17.

Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum will take the feds to court — alleging that law enforcement officers working for several national agencies arrested local demonstrators without probable cause.

Rosenblum announced the lawsuit just before 10 p.m. on Friday, July 17, saying the legal action would seek a restraining order preventing further arrests from being made by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Marshals Service, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and the Federal Protection Service.

"The current escalation of fear and violence in downtown Portland is being driven by federal law enforcement tactics that are entirely unnecessary and out of character with the Oregon way," the A.G. said in a statement. "These tactics must stop."

Her office and the Multnomah County District Attorney also will launch a new state criminal investigation into the injuries inflicted on Donavan LaBella, a 26-year-old protester who was shot in the head by an impact munition fired by federal police on July 11.

LaBella was holding a boombox and standing across the street from the federal courthouse when he was fired on by officers. The incident shattered bones in his face, requiring major surgery, according to the young man's mother.

Rosenblum said she also is concerned with a spate of mysterious snatch-and-grab arrests involving federal officers in unmarked vans. Federal police have made more than a dozen arrests since they were called into Portland by President Donald Trump — but in one particularly high-profile incident described by OPB, they reportedly detained a protester for several hours for simply walking home from a rally.

The Nation reports that a Customs and Border patrol SWAT team known as the Border Patrol Tactical Unit, as well as the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group, were involved in the mysterious arrests.

U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon Billy J. Williams also has vowed to investigate both the arrest of Portlanders pulled into unmarked cars and LaBella's injuries, but that hasn't satisfied a brigade of ranking Oregon politicos, who have called for the feds to either leave Portland or disengage from policing protests.

Rosenblum said the presence of federal police had drawn more demonstrators into the streets and infringed on their First Amendment right to free speech.

"The federal administration has chosen Portland to use their scare tactics to stop our residents from protesting police brutality and supporting the Black Lives Matter movement," she said. "If this can happen here in Portland, it can happen anywhere."
 
Trump's failure to act against a known threat (Corona virus) makes him an accessory to murder for all those that died I guess....

See how your logic works...

Fine by me. Let’s clean house. Get rid of all establishment, incompetent, and corrupt politicians and start fresh. Personally, I prefer the term “Negligent Homicide” for Trump instead of “Murder”. Then again, there is blood on the hands under questionable circumstances for all US Presidents, including precious, for at least the last 100 years.
 
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