Sure. First, the very title of the thread "Trump's Base and Welfare" implies this has something to do with one or the other. It is neither related to Trump's base or Welfare. It is a fee imposed on retailers.
Correct, I didn't clarify. I meant to suggest that the fee will ultimately be passed to customers, and that the majority of welfare recipients are Trump supports.
Then there was "Trump's base may not like this. Elections are around the corner. Will this one get mysteriously moon-walked too." Again, you imply Trump is attacking either the poor or his base and that he will "moon walk" back on this once he realizes what you think you know.
Close. I think he'll moon walk it due to pressure from Republican representatives. Just like he did with the Mexico tariff, due to the same pressure.
Then there is this, which pretty much makes it come across as "war on the poor":
" The retailers will likely raise prices; so the poor will pay for this proposed tax--not the rich."
Correct.
The poor won't pay it, because retailers won't raise prices from it. And it's not a tax. Again.
Just like credit card fees to retailers don't affect prices. All retailers simply eat all fees ... as long as it's called a fee, and not called a tax. [sarcasm] We disagree.
My comment: A tax makes it seem like it is being thrust upon the public. This is not.
Your response: "We all are the public."
That kinda makes it seem like you claimed it was a tax on all of us. Actually, that's exactly what you're claiming.
Not at all. Just noting that you are beating a hasty retreat when presented with contrary evidence to your claim.
For some reason, here, you didn't quote me using the quote feature, if you had, one could link back to the original post and read the whole response, in context. And no, that's not what I'm claiming.
No, my retreat wasn't hasty. I responded, including screenshots.
@Tsing Tao , there comes a point where you simply have to agree to disagree. Some may consider debates about the difference between "tax" and "fee" as not worthy of hours of debate.
I made some arguments. You made some too. In the end, we will either agree or disagree.
You point out there is a difference between the words. And there is, technically.
I point out that law makers can use either term willy-nilly in some cases. And that this is one of those cases. If you disagree, that's fine with me. I don't have to win every debate.
In my mind, whether it's called a tax, or a fee, is irrelevant.
Upset that I won't entertain further your belief about the usage of the words tax vs fee.
