Trumpiness is a strong indicator of a high Covid death rate - Most deadly U.S. Counties

gwb-trading said:
Tell us where Florida ranks since Covid vaccines were readily available in April of 2021. A vaccine which prevents severe illness and death from Covid. You would think that Florida would be actively promoting these vaccines in view of its older vulnerable population. Name one time in the last six months when DeSantis promoted vaccines. His appointed anti-vax state surgeon general, Ladapo not refuses to say if he is vaccinated but pushes fake cures regularly while being associated with "America's Frontline Doctors". The Florida leadership is the very face of Covid fake new and misinformation
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Why would anyone use April 2021 as the starting point to start counting deaths? it has no logical basis.
 
wildchild said:
Why would anyone use April 2021 as the starting point to start counting deaths? it has no logical basis.
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As noted in previous posts -- public health experts have divided the pandemic into two phases. The first phase when no easy preventative measures (vaccines) were widely available thus everyone was as the mercy of Covid-19 virus. The second phase when the vaccine was available which generally prevented severe disease and death from Covid. States and counties with proper public health responses vigorously promoted the Covid vaccine leading to larger uptake rates and a much lower number of deaths. Keep in mind that over 95% of the deaths over the past year were in the unvaccinated in the United States. U.S. States with poor public health responses did not promote the vaccine (in fact Florida has not even mentioned the vaccine for months) and thus endured much worse death rates in the second phase of the pandemic during a time where vaccination made deaths from Covid easily preventable for the most part.
 
gwb-trading said:
As noted in previous posts -- public health experts have divided the pandemic into two phases. The first phase when no easy preventative measures (vaccines) were widely available thus everyone was as the mercy of Covid-19 virus. The second phase when the vaccine was available which generally prevented severe disease and death from Covid. States and counties with proper public health responses vigorously promoted the Covid vaccine leading to larger uptake rates and a much lower number of deaths. Keep in mind that over 95% of the deaths over the past year were in the unvaccinated in the United States. U.S. States with poor public health responses did not promote the vaccine (in fact Florida has not even mentioned the vaccine for months) and thus endured much worse death rates in the second phase of the pandemic during a time where vaccination made deaths from Covid easily preventable for the most part.
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Nice try scammer.

The issue with your logic is you have been trashing Florida since the beginning of the pandemic. Since that is the case, we are going to use the entire dataset to grade your performance. As noted previously, your claims about Florida doing a bad job are completely bullshit.
 
wildchild said:
Nice try scammer.

The issue with your logic is you have been trashing Florida since the beginning of the pandemic. Since that is the case, we are going to use the entire dataset to grade your performance. As noted previously, your claims about Florida doing a bad job are completely bullshit.
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When a governor such as DeSantis is doing their best to pretend Covid does not exist... hiding data and not implementing proper public health policy then they deserve to be criticized.
 
I have not been following the covid threads, that's probably obvious, but I do wonder at this thread's assertion and possible implication. Is there any sign that higher mortality among Trumpers is helping non-Trumpers politically? If so, is that being offset by voter repression laws in Trumpy districts?
 
Ricter said:
I have not been following the covid threads, that's probably obvious, but I do wonder at this thread's assertion and possible implication. Is there any sign that higher mortality among Trumpers is helping non-Trumpers politically? If so, is that being offset by voter repression laws in Trumpy districts?
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There was a lengthy post (via a political blog) I posted that went through the math of all of this. I will try to find it.

The bottom line is that the Republican deaths from Covid are not offsetting gerrymandering or voter suppression efforts. It is mainly because a large number of deaths are in areas that are purely red -- so if a district voted 84% Republican in the last election and only votes 82% Republican in the upcoming election it will not make much difference -- from a big picture level of local, state, or federal offices being voted for. There are few "purple" situations were the number of Covid deaths are meaningful to upcoming results or turnout.
 
Too many extreme liberals have died from Corona Virus since, the most deaths happened in extreme liberal states like California, New York, New Jersey, Michigan to name a few. Trump voters will be there on November 8, 2022 and on November 2024 when we re-elect President Donald Trump back into office.
 
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