Trumper's won't get vaccinated. Want to stay locked down forever

What a fake news title. More fake news from GWB the Covid fear monger who refuses to let Covid go away with fear and propaganda everyday.
 
COVID Is Going Away, and It’s Making Some Trump Fans Crazy
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/tucker-carlson-masks-police-vaccine-coronavirus-denial.html

As the coronavirus pandemic recedes as a national public-health emergency, you might expect reactionaries to respond with the same relief and joy as the rest of us, perhaps — given their exaggerated loathing of any protective measures — more so. Yet, oddly enough, the mental torments it’s inflicting upon them persist. They are seeing a glimpse of a world in which the virus does not supply a daily theater for culture-war conflict. It does not suit them.

Here are two usefully frank specimens to analyze: Tucker Carlson’s monologue last night attacking outdoor masks as an affront, and Peter D’Abrosca’s tirade against the vaccine in American Greatness. While neither rant is typical of current conservative thinking about the pandemic, they are not so completely idiosyncratic as to represent nothing broader. More importantly, they both lay out their premises in unusually revealing fashion.

Carlson’s monologue expresses indignation that any person would wear a mask outside. His point is not merely that outdoor masking is unnecessary — here he would have a very plausible case — but that it is a personal affront, against which he urges his audience to respond aggressively. If you see a person on the street in a mask, he says, tell them to take it off. And if you see children playing outside in a mask, you should react with the same alarm as if you were witnessing cold abuse, and call the police.

D’Abrosca uses his column to proclaim that he is refusing to be vaccinated not only because he questions its medical basis, but also as a way to torment his political enemies. “My primary reason for refusing the vaccine is much simpler: I dislike the people who want me to take it, and it makes them mad when they hear about my refusal. That, in turn, makes me happy.”

We are all familiar with libertarian arguments against public-health measures. There is certainly a trade-off between an individual’s ability to, say, eat at a crowded restaurant or fly on a plane maskless and society’s interest in suppressing the pandemic.

But neither Carlson nor D’Abrosca are making a libertarian case. The obvious libertarian principle on masking is that everybody should choose their own level of protective comfort, and that parents should make their own decisions about their children’s safety. (Perhaps they want their kids to wear masks because kids aren’t good at remembering to stay out of each other’s faces or grasping the difference between high-risk crowded spaces and low-risk spaces.)

Carlson is making the case explicitly against individual choice. He wants his viewers to insert themselves into the choices made by others, even invoking the intervention of armed state agents if necessary.

D’Abrosca is even more explicit in his rejection of libertarianism:

Personal liberty is not the reason I’m avoiding it, either. I’m not a member of the “don’t tread on me” club. Though I don’t think mandated “vaccine passports” are a brilliant idea, my refusal to take the vaccine is not related to some perceived or real government overreach. I’m not here to take a principled stand against the federal or state governments on this issue. In fact, I’m saving my principled stands against the federal or state governments for issues that really matter, like strengthening libel laws so that lying journalists can finally be shipped off to Guantanamo Bay where they belong.

D’Abrosca at least recognizes that, while having a choice not to take the vaccine is a libertarian idea, exercising the choice is not. His authoritarianism is a matter of conviction. He wishes to reserve the powers of the government to suppress one’s political enemies.

It’s usually wise to avoid the temptation to pathologize opposing beliefs without first attempting to understand them on their own terms. In this case, however, the subjects are laying out their diagnosis in full public view. “I have decided that because the vile political Left, which I despise in the abstract, wants me to take their coveted vaccine, I simply will not,” writes D’Abrosca. “After the horrifying displeasure of meeting several of their militant COVID-19 restriction enforcers in person over the past year, I have become even more steadfast in my stance.”

He is turning down a completely free and convenient medical treatment that gives almost complete protection against a virus that makes even young people quite sick and which has long-term health effects of unknown scale and duration. Because he believes it distresses his political enemies. (For the record, speaking for myself, I feel bemusement and pity for D’Abrosca, but not anger.)

Carlson, for his part, is training his fans to think of outdoor mask-wearing as a form of aggression against which they must lash out. And the reason is that the sight causes him psychological distress. What they should tell people when demanding they remove their masks, he instructs, is, “Your mask is making me uncomfortable.”

In both cases, it’s not about their freedom. It is — by their own account — about their feelings.

And it’s especially strange that they should be experiencing these feelings as normal life is beginning to return. The pandemic was first a hoax by deep-state authorities to undermine Donald Trump’s reelection, and then it became an excuse to impose purposeless public-health restrictions. Throughout these two (mutually exclusive) phases of denial, disbelieving the medical threat was a way to order their social identities. At some level, they cannot stand to see the conflict end.

A lot of truth to this...

There's been a lot of recent crazy anti-vaxx stories lately from Fox news host telling people to call the Police and child protection services on people that wear face masks to a private school telling vaccinated teachers to stay away from the schools children...

I expect some crazy nut Trump supporter to start killing / injuring people that either get vaccinated or wear a face mask due to the recent increasing aggressive rhetoric towards vaccinations / face mask wear even while the Biden administration is lifting restrictions.

Tucker Carlson should be arrested and fired from his job. He clearly has a goal in creating fear about face masks / vaccinations to continue the Pandemic just so he can cater to the crazies like Qanon for show ratings.

Many others like that doing the exact same on facebook, twitter, businesses and schools.

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Doctor Laughs in Top Southern California Republican’s Face as He Asks About Vaccine Tracking Device
https://www.thedailybeast.com/don-w...doctor-laughs-right-in-his-face-in-california

One of Southern California’s top Republican lawmakers asked a doctor if there’s a tracking device inside the coronavirus vaccines being given to residents—and got the exact response he deserved. Don Wagner, a member of the Orange County Board of Supervisors, asked his question during a Tuesday meeting to discuss the possibility of vaccine passports—but he let his imagination run away with him. “Is there any intention of tracking folks?” Wagner asked OC Health Care Agency Director Dr. Clayton Chau, who replied “Nope.” Undeterred, Wagner went on: “Is there any, in the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Dr. Chau paused for a second before letting out a laugh and saying: “I’m sorry, I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”



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I have a solution for counties like this -- encourage the sane vaccinated people to leave, build a wall around the county, don't let anyone in or out. Problem solved.

Faith, freedom, fear fuel rural America's COVID vaccine skeptics
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/faith-freedom-fear-rural-america-s-covid-vaccine-skeptics/19654250/

GREENEVILLE, Tenn.— “So, have you gotten the vaccine yet?”

The question, a friendly greeting to Betty Smith, the pastor’s wife, lingered in the air as the four church women sat down for their regular Tuesday coffee and conversation at Ingles Market.

Smith hesitated, sensing a chilly blast of judgment from a never-mask, never-vax companion. She fumbled through a nonreply.

Recalling the moment later, she sighed, “We were there to get to know each other better, but the first thing on the table was the COVID vaccine.”

The subject makes her husband, the Rev. David Smith, even more uncomfortable. “Honestly, I wish people wouldn’t ask,” he said, chatting after Wednesday night prayer at Tusculum Baptist Church. “I think it’s none of their business. And it’s just dividing people.”

As the beautiful Appalachian spring unfurls across northeastern Tennessee, the COVID-19 vaccine is tearing apart friends, families, congregations, colleagues. “It’s a muddy mess,” said Meredith Shrader, a physician assistant, who runs an events venue with her husband, another pastor, and who notes that the choice has become about much more than health care. “Which voice do you listen to?”

Communities like Greeneville and its surroundings — rural, overwhelmingly Republican, deeply Christian, 95% white — are on the radar of President Joe Biden and American health officials as efforts to vaccinate most of the U.S. population enters a critical phase. These are the places where polls show resistance to the vaccine is most entrenched. While campaigns aimed at convincing Black and Latino urban communities to set aside their vaccine mistrust have made striking gains, towns like these will also have to be convinced if the country is to achieve widespread immunity.

But a week here in Greene County reveals a more nuanced, layered hesitancy than surveys suggest. People say that politics is not the leading driver of their vaccine attitudes. The most common reason for their apprehension is fear — that the vaccine was developed in haste, that long-term side effects are unknown. Their decisions are also entangled in a web of views about bodily autonomy, science and authority, plus a powerful regional, somewhat romanticized self-image: We do not like outsiders messing in our business.

According to state health department statistics, 31% of the vaccine-eligible population in Greene County has gotten at least one dose of a COVID vaccine, still below Tennessee overall, which has one of the lowest rates in the country, and far below the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s national tally of 55%. While many older residents have been inoculated, now that eligibility is open to all adults, vaccination sites are almost desolate.

Still, conversations here show that for many people, resistance is not firm. Roiled by internet fallacies, many hunger for straightforward information from people they trust. Others have practical needs, like paid time off to recover from side effects, which the Biden administration has urged employers to offer, or the opportunity to get the shot from their own doctor.

What is also lacking is a groundswell that might encourage the hesitant to make the leap: Many people who have gotten vaccinated are remaining tight-lipped.

A Matter of Trust

Greene County is carpeted with hundreds of evangelical churches that range from steepled 19th-century edifices to back-roads barns. People scrape by on subsistence farming, jobs in small factories, welfare checks and cash flow from retirees who are moving onto the cheap, vista-blissful land. Drug busts for heroin and methamphetamine sustain a humming cottage industry of lawyers and bail bonds services.

COVID smacked the region hard this winter. Eleven people in Jim and Rita Fletcher’s extended circle died from it.

But no, the Fletchers, lifelong Greenevillians, will not get the vaccine.

What is the point, they ask? The government still wants you to wear a mask indoors. “I just don’t see any benefits,” said Rita Fletcher, as the couple waited to see their family doctor.

Neither the science nor statistics of the new vaccine daunt them. Now retired and in their 70s, Jim Fletcher was a telecom engineer, Rita Fletcher, a secretary and accounting clerk.

But the Fletchers, Free Will Baptists, worry the vaccine includes aborted fetal parts (it does not). They do not trust the government, convinced it has long manipulated COVID case numbers.

“I just think we have been hornswoggled,” Jim Fletcher said.

People do not put much stock in pronouncements by politicians, but they do trust Walt Cross, proprietor of the Mustard Seed, a shop in Newport just over the county line, that takes its name from the Gospel of Matthew and carries herbs, nutritional supplements and local produce.

Cross, who is also a volunteer fire chief for Cocke County, is a tall, lanky east Tennessean with a blue-eyed focus and a warm mountain drawl, whether he is describing his preferred method to rouse people who have overdosed (ammonia rather than Narcan) or answering questions from COVID patients about how to treat their symptoms (hydrate, eat, take herbal extracts, apply hot and cold compresses).

Before going to the doctor, many people phone Cross. Or after the doctor’s medicines do not seem to be working. Although his father died of COVID, Cross will not get the vaccine. “We jumped into bed with the vaccine too fast!” he said. While he will not tell people to get it or not, he says pointedly, “Do your due diligence.”

Cross, who lectures around the country and in Rwanda about preventive wellness, is studying for an advanced degree in naturopathic medicine. His shop evokes themes dear to Appalachians, with people calling these early April weeks the “redbud winter” — the spring chill during which redbud trees swell with mauve-pink blossoms. A store wall is lined with Mason jars filled with herbaceous plants like jewelweed, passionflower and elderberry, which Appalachians were taught to use by the Cherokee.

He scoffs at the perception that people here are vaccine-hesitant simply because they, like him, are Republicans.

“That doesn’t make sense to me,” he said. “Trump brought the vaccine in.” If this was about political affiliation, he continued, “you’d jump and take it!” Instead, he said, people think the vaccine is too entwined with politics.

In Appalachia, Cross explained, the fervor with which people sidestep the vaccine is ratcheted up by history and tradition. For centuries, Scots-Irish settlers tucked into the mountains to evade army conscription and tax collectors.

Jeremy Faison, a longtime Republican state representative who grew up in the area, agrees: “Throughout the pandemic, there are a lot of us who are like, ‘It’s a serious situation, but me and my family can take care of ourselves.’”

Faison, a libertarian and an evangelical Christian, added, “So we take exception with the government putting mandates on us, pressuring us to do something.”

That view is bolstered by a religious, near-joyous fatalism. People say that if they have not caught COVID a year into the pandemic, they will take their chances. True, they might get COVID and die. But either way, a win-win: longer life on Earth or, for the faithful, eternal life in Heaven.

“There’s a time appointed for every person to die,” said Reuben Smucker, a Mennonite pastor in Greeneville who works as a garage door installer. “We should take care of our bodies physically, emotionally and spiritually, but if it’s my time to go and it’s by COVID, well then, it’s my time to go.”

After Cross, an elder in a Seventh-day Adventist Church, counsels COVID patients, he prays with them. “That’s the most important thing,” he said. “Because it’s God who does the healing.”

A Topic Too Volatile

So charged have the COVID shots become that many people have adopted a resigned silence. A vaccinated 20-something barista has given up trying to persuade her not-now, not-ever father. A retired postal worker just lets her doctor assume she has gotten the shots because he is a family friend. But she has not — and will not.

Mary Hayes, who drove into Greeneville for a reunion lunch with a large group of vaccinated friends, is accustomed to speaking her mind. But she has a moral quandary: should she advocate for the vaccine or keep quiet? She got the vaccine early because so many doses went unclaimed. In her remote corner of the county, people already look at her warily.

“A lot of times I have to temper my opinions in order to fit in,” Hayes said, tears welling in her eyes. “I’m walking a line between people refusing to socialize with me or not.”

Hayes grew up here, left and returned to care for her mother. Late in 2019, while teaching English online to students in China, she noticed that some were disappearing from her computer monitor. They were succumbing to a mysterious virus.

Later, when her family went into lockdown, neighbors dismissed her fears.

“Appalachians were raised to believe they must work and can’t get sick, no matter what,” said Hayes, who has a graduate degree in Appalachian studies. She wept in frustration as familiar names appeared on her prayer chain, deathly ill from the virus.

On the door of her church, someone recently posted a newspaper letter. It derided COVID mask mandates, “the Prophet Fauci” and vaccines “made in part from aborted children.”

The topic of the vaccine has even muted the most influential leaders in Greene County: evangelical pastors. There are many who have been vaccinated, like David Smith at Tusculum Baptist, but will not use the pulpit to support it. He does not want to risk alienating anyone, he explained, at a time when he hopes people will return to the church itself to worship. After a year of Zoom services, which people call “pajama church,” he fears in-person attendance will drop.

Daniel Shrader, who leads a small Baptist congregation, is all-in on the vaccine. He wants church to be safe for the older, hard-of-hearing ladies to whom he has been preaching during the pandemic by shouting from their porch steps.

In conversation, he will share his vaccine views; in larger gatherings, he sticks to prayer. The pastors’ perspectives run the gamut. Smucker, the Mennonite pastor, believes that natural herd immunity — let the disease run its course — is a better path than vaccination. But he will not preach about it.

Chelsea Daugherty’s father, a Free Will Baptist pastor, is unsure about getting vaccinated. Daugherty, a sophomore at Tusculum University who got the shot, said her father tells worshippers, “The Lord gave us common sense, so we’ve got to use it.” Make up your own mind.

So, which trusted person will speak for the vaccine? Eva Fields?

She is a nurse practitioner who treated one of the first local patients to die from COVID. Greeneville-raised, she has 24 relatives who had the virus.

When she asks patients if they will get vaccinated, about half reply, “No, and I’m not going to.” Assuming she will be angry, they add, “I’m so sorry if that upsets you!”

Fields responds, “That’s OK, honey. I’m not planning to, either.”

Her gut tells her to believe a video someone sent her from a far-right misinformation group, in which a ranter said studies showed that vaccines caused plaque in the brain.

Like others here, she is suspicious of Bill Gates’ involvement in vaccine development. One evening at supper, Dr. Theo Hensley, a vaccine proponent in her office, retorted, “I don’t know Bill Gates, but I do know that Dolly Parton gave a million bucks.” (Parton is northeast Tennessee’s favorite daughter.)

“Well, she’s probably OK,” Fields allowed.

“When someone pushes something really hard, I sit back because I don’t like people telling me, ‘This is what you need to do,’” Fields said. Echoing many others, she added, “I need to do my own research.”

For now, she neither urges nor discourages patients to get the vaccine.

Persuasion

The day the Fletchers, the retired couple, spoke about the vaccine with their family physician, Dr. Daniel Lewis, was the one-year anniversary of the day he was put on a ventilator with a severe case of COVID.

Lewis, 43, remained hospitalized for more than a month. He was so gravely ill that he recorded farewell messages for his five children.

Over his 13 years in Greeneville, Lewis, a volunteer physician for school sports teams and chief medical officer for four Ballad Health regional hospitals, accrued a wide community of support. During his illness, people dropped off meals and restaurant gift cards on his porch and kept up a surging prayer chain. They mowed his lawn, mulched his flower beds, fixed his truck.

When he left the hospital, 34 pounds thinner, weak and wobbly, he and his wife, devout Baptists, struggled to figure out God’s purpose behind the ordeal.

Patients kept telling him, “I didn’t take COVID seriously until you got sick.”

So Lewis began using that hard-earned credibility to speak about the vaccine, visiting nursing homes, addressing churches, making videos. He honed his pitch to meet every pushback, from faux-scientific to conspiratorial to spiritual. Although many Appalachians used to resist seeing the doctor, family medicine practitioners like Lewis are becoming trusted figures. But discussing vaccines with patients takes time, which many doctors cannot afford, and an established relationship, which many poor patients do not have.

Lewis gives a soft sell that sometimes works. A patient will say, “So, are you going to give me the vaccine now?”

He has to respond, “I don’t have it here.” The patient shuts down. “Then I’m not going to take it.”

Could Lewis persuade the Fletchers to get the vaccine? Jim Fletcher does not fret about long-term side effects. His prostate cancer has returned, one more blow in a Job-like year that saw the unexpected death of his younger son, a paraplegic, and the death of a nephew, an emergency room physician. A year in which dear friends severed their relationship with the Fletchers because of the couple’s COVID skepticism.

“When you get older, you think you have no more tears, but then something causes them to come back,” he said in a subdued voice.

Lewis patiently addressed the Fletchers’ questions, delineating between what researchers do and do not yet know.

“How can we be sure there are no chips in the vaccine, like the things you put in your dog?” Jim Fletcher asked.

“We can’t make microchips that small,” Lewis countered.

“Well, it’s like a grain of rice,” said Jim Fletcher.

“I couldn’t inject a grain of rice with a needle,” Lewis said.

Lewis held up his smartphone. If you are worried about being tracked, he said, all the technology is right here, in the very thing you pick up every day. Every hour.

The Fletchers looked abashed.

“It’s your decision,” Lewis said gently. “I just want you to be able to make an informed decision, and I want to do the best I can to help you.”

Jim Fletcher replied, “Well, we have to spend some time in discussion.”

Later, Lewis was optimistic: “I think I can eventually persuade them.”

To date, the Fletchers say they will not take the vaccine.
 
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