Trumper's won't get vaccinated. Want to stay locked down forever

In other news, those extreme liberal states with high vaccination rates that GWB likes to point out as doing a helluva job containing the virus, Oops.

https://uafreport.com/rich/three-st...nation-rates-are-stunned-to-see-case-numbers/

UAF Report -- LOS -- a cesspool of fabricated nonsense.


Why don't you compare the deaths, hospitalizations, and cases from these states to Florida & Texas over recent months on a raw or per-capita basis. Also while noting that over 95% of the cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in these states are unvaccinated.
 
So let's take a look at two comparable rural Texas counties -- one nearly fully vaccinated with few Covid cases. A second barely vaccinated with dead and dying all over the place.

A tale of two counties: Texas communities illustrate deep divide in COVID-19 vaccination efforts
In Texas, vaccination rates vary drastically from county to county.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/tale-...llustrate-deep-divide-covid/story?id=80521119

Americans remain deeply polarized over the renewed push to get the country vaccinated.

Nowhere is such a divide more evident than in Texas, where the vaccination rates tend to vary drastically from county to county.

Presidio County -- a remote area of southwest Texas, home to approximately 7,800 people -- while rural, boasts the state's highest vaccination rate, with nearly every one of its eligible residents fully vaccinated.

In the county, cell service is often spotty, and the closes medical center is hours away from most homes, but residents who chose to get vaccinated said they saw it as a matter of life or death.

MORE: COVID patients overwhelm Texas hospitals, amid 'hair on fire' crisis

Rosendo Scott, a Vietnam veteran, who is battling amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS, was more than willing to roll up his sleeve when he became eligible for a vaccine.

"We're so isolated that we could easily just fall like dominoes, if something wasn't done," he told ABC News.

Big Bend Regional Medical Center serves approximately 25,000 residents in a vast 12,000 square mile area, Dr. Adrian Billing, chief medical officer at the hospital, said.

"It's a 90-to-150-mile one-way trip to get to the emergency room, so I think some of that, just recognizing how limited we are for health care, contributed to our high vaccination rates," Billing said.

Given the extremely high demand for vaccination, Billing said, all of the county's available health care workers were pulled away from other duties in order to assist with the shots.

"We had to shut down our medical and dental service lines, and our behavioral health service lines, on these days that we did 500 or 600 vaccines at a time," Billing said, adding that he has not recently seen a single vaccinated patient wind up in the hospital.

Scott explained that he has a very high level of trust in his health care providers, and thus, in their recommendation that he get vaccinated.

"I'm a believer in science," Scott said.

The county's impressive vaccination rate has kept residents safer, local leaders said, especially the community's youngest members.

Scott's wife, Allison, who is the principal of Marfa High School, in Presidio County, told ABC News that thanks to the county's high vaccination rate, there have not been any coronavirus cases in the K-12 public school system since school started.

"So far -- and this is our eighth week of school -- we haven't had a positive case, so we're remaining hopeful," she said.

However, more than 620 miles away, in Lamar County, the story is very different. Despite the availability of vaccines, only 40% of the residents have been fully vaccinated.

Klark Byrd, the managing editor of The Paris News, a small town newspaper, said he believes vaccine hesitancy in Lamar has been largely driven by residents' "distrust in the government, distrust in the vaccine makers, [and] distrust, based on misinformation that's found on social media sites."

Given the low rate of vaccination in the county, Byrd has been printing op-eds, urging residents to talk to their doctors.

Although Byrd himself has not been vaccinated, due to a pre-existing health condition, he said he is taking all the necessary precautions to keep himself safe, with hand sanitizer, masks and social distancing.

"Sometimes, I'm the only one with a mask, and that's concerning, but I maintain my distance with people. If I turn down an aisle at Walmart, and there's a bunch of people, I will avoid that aisle and wait till it clears out," he said.

Among the many who have opted not to get the shot is Kacy Cole.

Despite the fact that he has seen firsthand how serious COVID-19 can be, with several close friends and family, including his wife, contracting the virus, Cole said he has not reconsidered his anti-vaccine stance.

"It did not," Cole told ABC News. "We prayed about it and we firmly believe that a lot of faith is involved in a lot of things we do."

The decision of Cole, and other residents not to get vaccinated has been a tough pill to swallow for many front-line workers.

Dr. Amanda Green, the Lamar County health director and the local hospital's chief medical officer, explained she wants to do her utmost to keep her community healthy, and the public educated about vaccines, but she tries to be realistic in her awareness that she may never be able to convince everyone.

"There are some people that I think they'll just never change, no matter what," Green told ABC News.

From Green's perspective, such vaccine hesitancy can be a fatal choice. She pointed to Ronnie Stanley, the husband of a local nurse who chose not to get vaccinated. After falling ill to COVID-19, he wound up in the ICU, and died late last month.

MORE: Why lawsuits against COVID-19 vaccine mandates will likely fail: Experts

"No one is invincible to this disease, it doesn't care, it doesn't discriminate," Stanley's widow, Amanda, told ABC News. She had urged him to get the shot, from the very beginning, but he was set in his ways, she said.

"He knew that it was as real as what it is, (but) he didn't know that he would have been affected the way he did. I think had he known, then absolutely, he would have vaccinated and, you know, saved us all the torment that we've seen the last month. But yes, he was unvaccinated, and others believe that plays a big role in his death," Amanda said

She is now seeking to convince those who are still hesitant, by telling his story.

"I don't believe it has anything to do with politics," she said about the COVID-19 vaccine. "I believe that this vaccine was created by brilliant doctors and scientists, and God gave them those abilities. And that's what people need to understand, it's a selfless act when you get vaccinated. It's not for yourself, but it's for those that you need to protect."
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...And that's what people need to understand, it's a selfless act when you get vaccinated. It's not for yourself, but it's for those that you need to protect."

What a dumb cunt, and that is probably the most pervasive problem about this pandemic. All the feel-goody nature of this disease.

No, this disease, like any other, is about protecting ME AND MY OWN! FUCK EVERYONE ELSE!

I did not get this vaccine, or wear masks, or do all the other things, to protect someone else. I did it to protect ME and MY OWN.

That is the selfish nature we have been operating with for 200,000 years. Why change the narrative now?

These NIH and CDC bungholes totally fucked up the message. It comes down to the whole touchy-feelly "we must protect your children" shit, because "we are in your face and you do not know what you are doing in your own life".
 
What a dumb cunt, and that is probably the most pervasive problem about this pandemic. All the feel-goody nature of this disease.

No, this disease, like any other, is about protecting ME AND MY OWN! FUCK EVERYONE ELSE!

I did not get this vaccine, or wear masks, or do all the other things, to protect someone else. I did it to protect ME and MY OWN.

That is the selfish nature we have been operating with for 200,000 years. Why change the narrative now?

These NIH and CDC bungholes totally fucked up the message. It comes down to the whole touchy-feelly "we must protect your children" shit, because "we are in your face and you do not know what you are doing in your own life".

The post above has to be one of the most ignorant posts in these forums in recent weeks. But this is what we have come to expect of anti-vaxxers.

The reason other deadly diseases don't exist in society is because nearly everyone is vaccinated and we have reached herd immunity.
This allows protection of everyone across society including the very small number of people where the vaccination does not take or are not vaccinated for some medical reason. The only REASON YOU AND YOUR OWN ARE PROTECTED is BECAUSE EVERYONE IS PROTECTED. Otherwise you would be apt to get a breakthrough case of a deadly disease despite being vaccinated.

Let's take a look at the partial list of deadly diseases you are protected against via large-scale vaccinated herd immunity:
  • Diphtheria
  • Pertussis
  • Polio
  • Measles
  • Mumps
  • Rubella
  • Smallpox
  • and many others
 
The post above has to be one of the most ignorant posts in these forums in recent weeks. But this is what we have come to expect of anti-vaxxers...
You are missing the point of my rant. The point is that if they simply told everyone that the vaccine would protect THEMSELVES, then I feel a lot more people would have gotten it. For the selfish reasons that are inherent in the species. Humans are inherently selfish. So instead of telling them to get vaccinated to protect someone else, tell them to get it to protect THEMSELVES.

Quite simple, really.
 
You are missing the point of my rant. The point is that if they simply told everyone that the vaccine would protect THEMSELVES, then I feel a lot more people would have gotten it. For the selfish reasons that are inherent in the species. Humans are inherently selfish. So instead of telling them to get vaccinated to protect someone else, tell them to get it to protect THEMSELVES.

Quite simple, really.

So what are you going to do to convince these unvaccinated people to protect THEMSELVES. When you bring up facts like over 95% of the people in the hospital and deaths are unvaccinated -- these anti-vaxxers are the same people screaming that this is fake information because they read some nonsense on social media.

We have reached the point where all the reasonable adults have been vaccinated and most of the hold outs are low information people who follow conspiracy nonsense.

At this time the only way to convince these unvaccinated hold-outs to get vaccinated is via mandates. As seen in surveys and in reality the only way these individuals will get vaccinated is if their employer mandates it or they are denied admission to most venues such as concerts, bar, and restaurants. I have already seen locally... the loudest anti-vax loudmouths become compliant as sheep and get vaccinated when they were told they would be out of a job.

And keep in mind being vaccinated does not only protect themselves -- it helps stop clogging our healthcare system allowing other surgeries to be scheduled. As well has protecting everyone else by getting us to herd immunity so we can get back to a normal life.
 
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Not only in the U.S. but also in Europe --- the unvaccinated are going to lead to the continuation of lockdowns.

"We are about to stumble into a pandemic of the unvaccinated."

Unvaccinated Austrians warned they face new lockdown if they refuse jabs and cases rise
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3926981/austria-faces-covid-lockdown-over-vaccination-rates/

AUSTRIANS refusing to get jabbed are being told they could face another lockdown.


Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said if cases continue to rise, he may be forced to issue anti-vaxxers with a stay-at-home order and ban them from certain venues.

Schallenberg is in a fight against time to stop ICU wards in the country from being inundated with unvaccinated Austrians.

The newly-appointed Chancellor announced that if Covid-19 patients in ICU reaches 500 - or 25 per cent of the country's total ICU capacity - entry into venues like hotels and restaurants will be limited to those who have had both jabs.

If the number reaches 600 - or one third of total ICU capacity - the government could put in place restrictions that mean unvaccinated Austrians will need to stay at home and only leave the house for specific reasons.

Currently, the number of COVID patients in ICUs stands at 220.

In a press conference on Friday, Schallenberg said: "The pandemic is not yet in the rearview mirror.


"We are about to stumble into a pandemic of the unvaccinated."


In the past week, Austria has reported 20,408 new cases of the virus, according to health authorities, bringing the 7-day average to 228.5 per 100,000 inhabitants. A week earlier, that figure was at 152.5 per 100,000 inhabitants.

Although Austria's government has encouraged citizens to get vaccinated, the effort has slowed in recent months.

Some 65.4 per cent of the total population has received one dose of the vaccine, and 62.2 per cent are fully vaccinated.
 
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