Trump Vows To Send Military, Close Southern Border To Block Migrants
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What is your recommendation for how to deal with the caravan of the month?
Oh, I see. Nevermind.
Laying down welcome mats the entire length of the border might have to wait until a dem is back in the White House. And of course the California National Guard wont do any real border work but is always willing to just drive down to Honduras and bring people back.
He'll tell you there's no problem. It's just imaginary.
How does an Irishman escaping the world in Colombia get off on lecturing us about the insanity of letting in a million people plus a year plus illegals.
Do you even know what these policies of have done.
The worst is they have allowed leftist politicians to be elected and set us on a course of mal distribution of income, very low wages for middle class workers... and the election of leftist politicians enacting policies which destroy our cities states and country.
Have you watched what this leftist has done to our once great libertarian state of California. We now lead the country in poverty. We have such poor income distribution that only 30 percent of us pay income taxes and the rest vote for moe.
Plus our carbon footprint has gone up massively.
By the way this is your country of Colombia actin more sane...
PASSPORT/VISA NOTE
All tourists visiting Colombia must hold valid passports, tickets, and documents for onward or return travel, and sufficient funds to cover their stay. Tourists must have confirmed accommodation on arrival. We recommend that passports be valid for six months after intended period of travel. Visitors traveling to San Andres (ADZ) are required to purchase a Tourist Card. Fee: approx. COP 108,974.- Visitors traveling to Leticia (LET) are required to purchase a Tourist Card. Fee: Varies between COP 8,400.- and COP 21,000.-
Note: Passport and visa requirements are liable to change at short notice. Travellers are advised to check their entry requirements with their embassy or consulate.
Read more: http://www.wordtravels.com/#ixzz5UJ7UElXc
Do you even know what these policies of have done.
The worst is they have allowed leftist politicians to be elected and set us on a course of mal distribution of income, very low wages for middle class workers... and the election of leftist politicians enacting policies which destroy our cities states and country.
Have you watched what this leftist has done to our once great libertarian state of California. We now lead the country in poverty. We have such poor income distribution that only 30 percent of us pay income taxes and the rest vote for moe.
Plus our carbon footprint has gone up massively.
By the way this is your country of Colombia actin more sane...
PASSPORT/VISA NOTE
All tourists visiting Colombia must hold valid passports, tickets, and documents for onward or return travel, and sufficient funds to cover their stay. Tourists must have confirmed accommodation on arrival. We recommend that passports be valid for six months after intended period of travel. Visitors traveling to San Andres (ADZ) are required to purchase a Tourist Card. Fee: approx. COP 108,974.- Visitors traveling to Leticia (LET) are required to purchase a Tourist Card. Fee: Varies between COP 8,400.- and COP 21,000.-
Note: Passport and visa requirements are liable to change at short notice. Travellers are advised to check their entry requirements with their embassy or consulate.
Read more: http://www.wordtravels.com/#ixzz5UJ7UElXc
Irish citizenship... Not easy for foreign nationals an no anchor babies...
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/e...ish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/e...ish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html
Thanks for asking. The first thing we should do is secure the border appropriately. Then we should have an e verify law for every job in America. The third thing is increase legal immigration.
What we should not be doing is jamming the detention and court systems with nonviolent offenders that slow down the deportation process on whole.
That's Obama 101. If you can just get here, you are good to go as long as you dont commit a felony. Ditto for your 23 relatives you bring in.
Your recommendation is not the solution, it is THE PROBLEM.
Also, even if one were to agree that we need more skilled labor immigrants, we dont need any more immigrants from Mexico and whatever legal quota has been granted to them needs to be netted down by the number of illegals in the country. The math on that is not pretty if you dont like negative numbers. And please, no jibberish about the number leaving voluntarily being a net wash with the new arrivals. 22 million illegals here and 22 million there, and pretty soon it adds up.
Obama was a much better manager of our deportation process than Trump. The system ran much smoother under Obama and more deportations resulted.
So you support the idea of letting thousands of illegal aliens go free in our cities and towns?
ICE director’s testimony
At a July 21, 2015, hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Cruz asked Saldaña how many murderers the administration had released "yesterday." The director said she didn’t know. But generally, Saldaña said, "we don’t release people willy-nilly. We release people pursuant to these statutes and regulations," a reference to two thick paperback volumes she’d waved. "There are only a limited number of crimes that we are required to detain people," she said, including ones related to drug distribution.
In 2013, Cruz replied, ICE agents chose not to begin deportation proceedings against 68,000 people with criminal convictions and separately had released from detention 36,000 people with criminal convictions, including 193 homicide convictions, he said.
To get the full picture, he said, "you’ve got to add both" tallies.
"Yes, sir," Saldaña said, "that’s absolutely right." She also went on to say the agency actions had taken place pursuant to federal law.
At that moment, there seemed to be agreement the agency in 2013 had chosen not to detain or had released 104,000 people with criminal convictions who also were living in the country without legal permission.
Frazier told us Cruz also drew on a May 2014 report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that focuses on lessening immigration. That report said that from October 2012 through September 2013, ICE "freed 36,007 convicted criminal aliens from detention who were awaiting the outcome of deportation proceedings," according to an agency document obtained by the center. The report’s author, Jessica Vaughan, previously told us the document came from someone she declined to identify who fielded it in connection with congressional inquiries.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uz-obama-administration-released-104000-crim/
ICE director’s testimony
At a July 21, 2015, hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Cruz asked Saldaña how many murderers the administration had released "yesterday." The director said she didn’t know. But generally, Saldaña said, "we don’t release people willy-nilly. We release people pursuant to these statutes and regulations," a reference to two thick paperback volumes she’d waved. "There are only a limited number of crimes that we are required to detain people," she said, including ones related to drug distribution.
In 2013, Cruz replied, ICE agents chose not to begin deportation proceedings against 68,000 people with criminal convictions and separately had released from detention 36,000 people with criminal convictions, including 193 homicide convictions, he said.
To get the full picture, he said, "you’ve got to add both" tallies.
"Yes, sir," Saldaña said, "that’s absolutely right." She also went on to say the agency actions had taken place pursuant to federal law.
At that moment, there seemed to be agreement the agency in 2013 had chosen not to detain or had released 104,000 people with criminal convictions who also were living in the country without legal permission.
Frazier told us Cruz also drew on a May 2014 report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that focuses on lessening immigration. That report said that from October 2012 through September 2013, ICE "freed 36,007 convicted criminal aliens from detention who were awaiting the outcome of deportation proceedings," according to an agency document obtained by the center. The report’s author, Jessica Vaughan, previously told us the document came from someone she declined to identify who fielded it in connection with congressional inquiries.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uz-obama-administration-released-104000-crim/
You selectively pulled a piece from PolitiFact without the full context and then tell me what I support.
I don’t support mismanagement of resources and I support the rule of law.
This stuff isn’t pretty and unless you can digest the good, the bad and the ugly of it all you’ll never be able to fully understand or come to a workable solution.
This is typical for you right wing types and only shows how Trump got into this mess with deportations to begin with.