Trump travel ban: Supreme Court reinstates key parts of executive order

[TreeFrogTrader]

" I feel badly for the millions of Americans who don't think you should be armed in public yet have to live their daily lives with that extra risk.[/QUOTE]


Try feeling badly for the venezuelans who shut down the zoo in Caracus because all the animals had either starved to death or had been killed and eaten by the people. You would think that the oppostion would overthrow the Socialist Workers Paradise there except it's a bitch to fight a revolution when the government is fully armed and the people are fully unarmed. You have sympathy for those people who - no surprise here- are now flooding to the U.S? Didn't think so.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...ave-off-hunger-amid-mounting-food-crisis.html

 

[Wallet]

And the bullshit begins. WTF is the point of even having an executive branch, or a Supreme Court for that matter if this can continue to happen. This entire god damn system needs to be shredded to the fucking bone and rebuilt.
Judge suspends all Iraqi deportations in US for 2 weeks

ED WHITE,Associated Press 10 hours ago

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DETROIT (AP) — A federal judge on Monday temporarily suspended the deportation of 1,400 Iraqi nationals in the U.S. while he determines whether his court is the proper place to consider their fears of physical harm if they're kicked out of the country.

U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith took a decision from last week, affecting 114 mostly Iraqi Christians rounded up in the Detroit area, and stretched it across the U.S. for the next 14 days.

"The substantiated allegations made here are that detainees face extraordinarily grave consequences: death, persecution, and torture. ... Such harm far outweighs any interest the government may have in proceeding with the removals immediately," Goldsmith said.

The U.S. government said 1,400 Iraqis are under deportation orders nationwide, though most are not in custody. Some have been under orders for years because they committed crimes in the U.S. But legal action over deportations suddenly is heating up because Iraq has agreed to accept them.

The Justice Department insists a U.S. District Court judge doesn't have jurisdiction in the immigration matter. Goldsmith is not certain so the 14-day freeze will give him more time to decide.

"It's an unusual case for all kinds of reasons," he said hours earlier while hearing arguments.

The American Civil Liberties Union said a suspension is necessary so Iraqi nationals can go to immigration court and argue that their lives would be in jeopardy if returned to their native country. Without some intervention, the ACLU contends that people could be deported before their case is called.

"They need enough time to file those petitions to reopen. It's the government that is hurrying these people toward deportation," Margo Schlanger, attorney for the Iraqi immigrants, told the judge.

In this case the deportation halt is necessary. If I'm not mistaken these Iraqi's are Christian not Muslim. Their return puts them in direct danger.

Our past fearless leader put the stops to a group of Yazidi's last year who had escaped Isis, made it all the way to California where they had Family waiting. Sent them back in harms way.

These folks need to be left here till they can return home safely, where they want to be. But not today.

 

[Nine_Ender]

The outside world is very comfortable to me, and I am ready for what it has to offer. You are the one who constantly rails at everything being racist, bigot, blah blah blah. It is you who is telling others what they should be, confident that your way is the right way for everyone.

You're only ready for your version of alternate reality where carrying guns makes everyone safer and US crime statistics are supposedly high because of some bs themes. When challenged on it, you go off topic and negative extremely quickly, suggesting there is a fine line between calling you a participant on here or just a pure troll.

I stand behind my opinions on here and couldn't care less what some American from Tampa (!) thinks about them. I think you are a danger to your community based on your love of guns and stated role you perceive in society. Deal with it better, if you aren't ready for this kind of contention then how can you possibly be expected to make life or death decisions concerning others in public ?

 

[Tsing Tao]

You're only ready for your version of alternate reality where carrying guns makes everyone safer and US crime statistics are supposedly high because of some bs themes. When challenged on it, you go off topic and negative extremely quickly, suggesting there is a fine line between calling you a participant on here or just a pure troll.

So, no statistics like you claimed. Noted. I didn't really expect you to have anything or to want to go down the path of debating it.

I stand behind my opinions on here and couldn't care less what some American from Tampa (!) thinks about them. I think you are a danger to your community based on your love of guns and stated role you perceive in society. Deal with it better, if you aren't ready for this kind of contention then how can you possibly be expected to make life or death decisions concerning others in public ?

Oh, there's no doubt you are committed to your viewpoints. Thankfully you don't have a vote here in the United States and can't really do anything about it except haunt a US politics forum.

 

[Scataphagos]

Not sure about you, but if I ever see one raping or harming someone locally, I plan on introducing them to my friend Walther.

Interesting... There's a website which specifically compares Florida and Colorado laws regarding gun use... Colorado being more restricted. (Basically, you can use deadly force on an intruder into your home but not to "stop/prevent other felonies".)

 

[Tsing Tao]

Interesting... There's a website which specifically compares Florida and Colorado laws regarding gun use... Colorado being more restricted. (Basically, you can use deadly force on an intruder into your home but not to "stop/prevent other felonies".)

Florida allows much more latitude in the defense of yourself or someone else. This does not mean you are free to "engage at will". It takes a deep understanding and a lot of training to determine when you can intervene without significant legal/physical risk to yourself.

I know you are probably aware of this. I'm just stating it for the jackasses like Nine Ender who think we all run around like cowboys in the wild west, waiting for a shoot out at the O.K. corral.

 

[Scataphagos]

Colorado law apparently makes it a point to NOT mention exceptions to our castle doctrine laws. I guess when a gun is used outside the home, it's left to the government to subjectively determine justification.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Colorado law apparently makes it a point to NOT mention exceptions to our castle doctrine laws. I guess when a gun is used outside the home, it's left to the government to subjectively determine justification.

Remember the old axiom that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

 

[Scataphagos]

Remember the old axiom that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Ditto that!