Trump trade war has failed to boost U.S. manufacturing...

I think you give our professional political class far too much credit. Eight years of Obama didn't really accomplish much of anything other than destroying the health insurance system for single payers and the self-employed. Trump didn't really accomplish much other than appointing a shit ton of Federal Judges.

Both parties are raving Corporatists. Political affiliation is just a vanity plate for the wealthy ruling elite. The liberals in real power were at some point in their careers severe capitalists who took every advantage they could to crush their competitors. That is, before they became liberal. But at least the liberals pay shallow platitudes to the less fortunate. Republicans won't bother.

Very few things that can be achieved in 8 years cannot be achieved in 4 years. However, destroying things is relatively easy to do in short order. Trump has dismantled or destroyed so much, and some it came back to haunt him ( like closing the center for dealing with viruses ).

So if Trump builds 5 miles of wall in 4 years, does that mean he'll do 11 miles in 8 years ?
 
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Your profile says you're from Ireland, but you seem to like to disparage Americans. Your demagoguery aside, the fact is that both parties have been lining their pockets with loads of private equity and Wall Street cash for decades now. The 2020 Democratic Party is at present in the back pocket of every Wall Street Bank and Silicon Valley behemoth there is - don't take my word for it, google the donor list. Reads like NASDAQ and the Banking Sector ETF had a love child. The Democratic Party is just as corporatist and beholden to moneyed interests as the Republican Party - and that fact is what propelled the Bernie Sanders movement (and Andrew Yang, for that matter). It's just a revolving door. They're all getting greased. And Joe Biden knows how to take care of his donors - just ask the credit card companies.

Do you honestly think that Joe Biden is going to walk back the tariffs on China without getting something in return? Is Joe going to cozy up to China and flat out ignore their manifold human rights abuses? China was going to get confronted whether it was Orange Man or HRC sitting in the oval office. And we know what their leadership is - a wolf in wolf's clothing. Just ask China's neighbors.

Fools keep thinking that Joe Biden is going to fix everything that took decades to destroy. Same idiots take as gospel that the Green New Deal is going to create millions of new jobs and that all the displaced energy sector coal, oil, and natural gas workers are going to magically transition into jobs installing solar panels and wind turbines. Right. Sure.

I mentioned the source of my information and just replicated what they say. So Forbes are demagogues, not me. Apparently they have proof of what they wrote so even they are no demagogues. You have long toes.
I never said Biden is a saint. But Trump is the biggest criminal President the US ever had.

I cannot vote for the US elections, but my opinion is closer to the Republican view than the Democrats view. The HUGE mistake the Republicans made however, would force me to vote Democrats if I could volte. That HUGE mistake is called Trump.
 
I never said Biden is a saint. But Trump is the biggest criminal President the US ever had.
That HUGE mistake is called Trump.

sad you're so ignorant to the facts of what is going on, i get it you hate the man but what he has done we love.

you can't even protect your daughters from english lords who still fuck you to this day so hardly think you are qualified to comment on us politics. go plant some more potatoes for the queen.
 
sad you're so ignorant to the facts of what is going on, i get it you hate the man but what he has done we love.

you can't even protect your daughters from english lords who still fuck you to this day so hardly think you are qualified to comment on us politics. go plant some more potatoes for the queen.

To be fucked by English lords I should move from where I live now. I don't live in Ireland and I am not Irish. On internet nothing is what is suggests to be.

Trump used the Chinese fight to put pressure on the Chinese government so that they should quickly approve all the licences that the Trump family need to do more business with the Chinese.
What is left from this Chinese war? Americans pay now import taxes on Chinese goods and the deficit did not shrink at all. The MAGA slogan is pure fake. Idiots should by expensive US goods while the Trump family is importing all kind of cheap Chinese goods to sell expensive in the US. Trump is fucking the US consumers.
 
To be fair, building hotels in China and importing branded Chinese goods for resale is more entrepreneurial than sending your crackhead kid to collect bribes in the form of phony board remuneration fees and “loans” with no repayment terms.

And I do think that government business should NOT be conducted on Trump properties while he’s President.

And Jim Biden devoting a presentation slide to the positive business attributes for his sibling connection to his VP Brother while pitching a deal between the Chinese and Columbia is NOT acceptable.

You can’t call out one side and just ignore the other. Unless you’re in the media, of course then you have no standards.

To be fucked by English lords I should move from where I live now. I don't live in Ireland and I am not Irish. On internet nothing is what is suggests to be.

Trump used the Chinese fight to put pressure on the Chinese government so that they should quickly approve all the licences that the Trump family need to do more business with the Chinese.
What is left from this Chinese war? Americans pay now import taxes on Chinese goods and the deficit did not shrink at all. The MAGA slogan is pure fake. Idiots should by expensive US goods while the Trump family is importing all kind of cheap Chinese goods to sell expensive in the US. Trump is fucking the US consumers.
 
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Say Goodbye To Millions Of Jobs As Events Unfold

"...What has happened in the manufacturing is part of a larger paradox at the heart of America's economy, while we are creating wealth faster than ever before in history, at the same time, millions of people are being left behind. The median worker in the US is poorer now than in the mid-1990s. Not everyone is suffering, skilled workers, for example, are earning more than ever. So are the very rich, those who own the capital that can be put to work in the world's increasingly person-free farms, mines, and factories. But those who used to make middle-class wages are increasingly slipping into lower-paying, service-sector jobs.

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Automation Is Replacing Off-shoring!

China's largest private employer, Foxconn, which manufactures the iPhone and many other consumer electronics have installed over a million manufacturing robots. This new wave of technology is leading to more and more automation and is rapidly replacing off-shoring as the least expensive way to produce products. China has been losing jobs to countries with even lower wages. Eventually, "you run out of places to chase the (cheap) labor," says Rodney Brooks, an Australian roboticist. This is where automation and robots enter the picture.

Years ago, thanks to some very clever engineering, a robot named Baxter cost about $22,000. Today the price is falling and Baxter is getting better. In the US, a person working full-time at what is considered a low wage would still cost an employer around $25,000 a year. The biggest difference is that robots like Baxter will work 24/7 where its human counterpart does not. Brooks indicates that, in many cases, these robots are not yet capable enough to replace a human worker.

The robot is not a one-to-one replacement,” says Brooks. “We see it as a tool for ordinary workers to do better.


His vision includes bringing manufacturing back to the US by replacing with automation some of the repetitive tasks that are currently shipped to China and other emerging markets.

Not only are we looking at robots taking jobs from people but as robots become more advanced and sophisticated, experts and academics have increasingly explored the questions of what ethics might govern robots' behavior, and whether robots might be able to claim any kind of social, cultural, ethical or legal rights. It is possible that a robot brain will soon exist, others predict robot intelligence breakthroughs by 2050. We must also question the use of robots for military combat, especially when such robots are given some degree of autonomous functions. There are also concerns about technology which might allow some armed robots to be controlled mainly by other robots. The use of robots in military combat raises ethical concerns, the US Navy has funded a report looking into this.

The possibility of robot autonomy and potential repercussions has been addressed in fiction and is likely to become a growing issue. Even as you read this, huge companies such as Amazon are focused on moving to create robots with the goal of reducing its human workforce. Self-driving cars and delivery trucks as well as drones all have the potential to eliminate work that in the past only people could do. One thing is certain, robots are taking our jobs and learning new tricks far faster than us humans. Automation and improvements in robots is a job killer. When you consider how fast the cost of replacing often unreliable human workers is dropping one must take a dim view of the employment picture going forward."
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Back in the 1990's I saw the beginning GM-TF&BGA (Tonawanda Forge & Buffalo gear and Axle). Robots were given tasks the were either too dangerous or monotonous for mere humans. Later on FANUC systems were deployed which cut more direct labor costs. In the end the facilities were closed and off shored to the Pacific Region.
The governments that have the manufacturing jobs and orders will most likely be not as foolish as the D.C. group. Someone should have listened to Ross Perot.

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Let's do something and expect it to have an immediate effect.

To his credit Trump is the only politician to call out China.

When Joe Biden was asked what his posture would be with China, he thought the topic was Chinese Food.

Joe answered that he is not crazy about lice but occasionally likes an egg roll.

Who knows. Maybe the Biden approach has merit.
 
Do you honestly think that Joe Biden is going to walk back the tariffs on China without getting something in return?
Yes. Biden is that incompetent.

Is Joe going to cozy up to China and flat out ignore their manifold human rights abuses?

Again, yes. Raising the issues of human rights in a hushed voice with "uh btw, you are doing this and this to this group of people and that is not right. Ok moving on to trade agreements..." like Obama did the last time he visited China is NOT what I would call confronting China with their human rights abuses.

Trump at least hit (or at least tries to) China where it cares the most...their $$.
 
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