We are assuming opposite things here. That's all. Don't let it bother you. One of us is right and one is wrong. We can't both be right. I'm perfectly OK with that. I've been wrong many times before. I'm used to it.
Trump Team Suddenly Not Sure Manafort Will Tell Truth
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But you've no idea what Manafort truths would be or what Trump would be ballistic about. It's just wish and hope at this stage.
What would he be in deep doo doo about? What would he go to jail for?As George Bush would say, Trump's in "deep doo doo." I suppose going to jail is the downside to clinical narcissism.
Google . . . . deep doo doo is your friend :
Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort is officially pleading guilty to an eye-popping charge: “conspiracy against the United States.”
Former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort is officially pleading guilty to an eye-popping charge: “conspiracy against the United States.”
Yes. Yours.
I don't think he will go to jail, do you? I think he might, were he an ordinary citizen. Then he could well go to jail for Obstruction of Justice , which he has already admitted to ("I fired Comey because of the Russian thing") , tax evasion and money laundering. There is virtually zero chance that he is not guilty of all these crimes, and there is a good possibility that he is also guilty of bank fraud. He hasn't been indicted for any of these crimes yet, let alone convicted. Chances are pretty good he'll be indicted once out of office, however the chances are excellent that President Pence will pardon him. The worst thing for Trump would be to serve out his term and then a Democrat President succeeds him. Then there would be an excellent probability that he would be both indicted and convicted but no pardon. Still there would be only a low probability of his going to jail.
He is not going to go to jail for civil offenses, like his fraudulent D.J. Trump Foundation. He is going to have to pay back the money he owes plus a big fine. He and his family will be barred for sometime from serving on the boards of charitable foundations. (See Barbara Underwood's case against the Foundation filed in Manhattan.) He is not going to jail for his violation of the Constitution's Emoluments Clause either. The worst that could happen there is impeachment and/or having his lease on his Government Owned Washington Hotel voided.
Actually I do. I know what Manafort did in Ukraine. With Manafort's help Mueller is going to be able to prove that Trump knew all about the Russian hacking operation (not necessarily illegal for Trump to know this). If Trumps campaign furnished any information or money to the hackers then Trump is in doo doo up to his neck. Manafort will know! Trump knows manafort knows. Trump is going ballistic right now. Manafort is a flipper. Trump fine with flipping on someone else or lying about someone, which is routine for him. But he can't stand someone flipping on him.
Watch for the Tweets. That will tell you a surprising amount. For example, what does 100 tweets ending "No Collusion" tell you? What does Trump firing Comey "because of the Russian thing" tell you? What does Trumps refusal to release his tax returns to the public tell you? What does selling bouquet condos to the Russian Mafia at top price tell you? What will his sudden silence on what a good man Manafort is going to tell you? Trump can't control himself. His tweets are going to tell you a lot. Be patient, vigilant, and monitor the tweets.
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If this is all you have then you are woefully bankrupt with regard to your charge that Trump or his administration is guilty of ANYTHING.