Sigh. I'm just going to have to accept that many people are less intelligent than I am. Clearly you are one. Of course you'll disagree, but... see the irony?
Trump Supporters Will be Responsible For Hillary Presidency
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what do you want us to do now? Or is it too late and you are just endlessly btching about something you can't do anything about. You lead we'll follow. You don't seem to have any trouble complaing but I don't see you contributing. Please stop wasting our oxygen.
Do we need to have everyone in the P&R forum take on-line IQ tests and post their results.
I see no evidence to back any of that. In fact, Trump's positions are the exact opposite.
Do you think our current relations with Russia are productive? Is there any reason it is in our interests to restart the Cold War? Has Russia threatened us? We have deployed NATO right on their doorstep, fomented a coup in Ukraine and generally behaved very aggressively toward them. Obama clearly dislikes Putin, who does not support gay rights, almost as much as he dislikes Bibbi Netanyahu. Why would it be so terrible to have a president Putin liked and respected?
I am not seeing the voters clamoring for starting more pointless wars, getting involved in overthrowing countries with no plans for what happens next or running up more debt to finance these adventures. Similarly, I see no groundswell of opinion in favor of taking in loads of muslim refugees.
What is Trump the exact opposite on? He is a big government, big tax, liberal who wants to expand bureaucracy. This is a factual statement.
As for Putin, why they hell would you pal up with him? Last time I checked a group of thugs backed by Putin shot down a civilian airliner. When Putin is not busy murdering his enemies, poisoning other people, and arming people so they can shoot down civilian airliners, he is a great guy.
Who is advocating starting more wars, other than Trump? Who is advocating taking in loads of Muslim refugees. Nice strawman, but I am going to tolerate it and let you pin positions on me that are not, in fact, mine.
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Hehe, no. But we might consider online politics and religion content tests, to see if posters here have spent any time, using their massive IQs, to STUDY something.Do we need to have everyone in the P&R forum take on-line IQ tests and post their results.
You keep saying this as though if you repeat it enough times, it will be accepted as true. His tax plan has been specifically criticized by the Washington Post and Paul Krugman, among others, as having way too much in the way of cuts. He has specifically said he wants to cut regulation, eg by trimming the EPA's wings.
He has also made a point of saying the health care our veterans is getting is scandalous and I fully expect him to turn that around.
You're entitled to your point of view but it would be more persuasive if they were based on actual facts.
Pretty much the entire rest of the republican field spent every debate trying to out macho each other on items like confronting Russia, putting troops into Syria, tearing up the Iran agreement, and getting in China's face. Other than Trump none of them ever criticized George Bush's disastrous policies of getting us stuck in never-ending wars in places that are not in our vital interests at all.
If you want a Bill Kristol foreign policy, fine, go for it, but Trump is not on board and neither are the voters. Hillary however is. She presided over serial interventionist disasters all over the middle east.
As for refugees, we know the establishment republicans as well as the democrats of course are all for bringing them in by the boatload. Paul Ryan expressly criticized Trump for his call to suspend muslim immigration, as did pretty much the rest of the republican candidates.
"Among others" indeed, you spinning goofus.
Even Conservatives Admit Trump's Tax Plan Would Add Trillions to the Deficit
"The conservative-leaning Tax Foundation, a D.C. think tank dedicated to tax policy issues, had some good news for billionaire and former reality television star Donald Trump on Tuesday. Trump, who still leads most polls in the race for the GOP Presidential nomination, released his plan to overhaul the nation’s tax system on Monday and came under fire from analysts across the ideological spectrum for the proposal, which would gut federal revenue and deliver a massive windfall to the wealthy while adding more than $11.98 trillion to the federal debt over the coming decade.
"However, the Tax Foundation pointed out in an analysis Tuesday that the $11.98 trillion figure is based on a “static” rather than a “dynamic” analysis of the effect of Trump’s plan.
"The difference is that a dynamic analysis of the proposal reflects the best estimates economists can make about the macroeconomic effects of dramatically lower taxes – things like increased consumer spending and investment. When the Tax Foundation ran a dynamic analysis, its researchers determined that the $11.98 trillion estimate was incorrect.
“Our analysis finds that the plan would reduce federal revenues by $11.98 trillion over the next decade,” wrote the Tax Foundation’s Alan Cole. “However, it also would improve incentives to work and invest, which could increase gross domestic product (GDP) by 11 percent over the long term. This increase in GDP would translate into 6.5 percent higher wages and 5.3 million new full-time equivalent jobs. After accounting for increased incomes due to these factors, the plan would only reduce tax revenues by $10.14 trillion.”
"But it would also, by dramatically increasing the country’s indebtedness, drive up the interest rate the government is forced to pay to borrow money, which would in turn likely make that figure even higher.
“Donald Trump’s tax plan would enact a number of tax reforms that would both lower marginal tax rates on workers and significantly reduce the cost of capital,” Cole wrote. “These changes in the incentives to work and invest would greatly increase the U.S. economy’s size in the long run, leading to higher incomes for taxpayers at all income levels.”
"But it’s difficult to get past the massive increase in the deficit that the Trump plan would create. Asked how his plan would close the gap, Trump on Monday said that a key element of his plan would be to do away with the carried interest loophole in the tax code, which allows investment managers to pay taxes on their fees as though they are capital gains.
"Experts say closing the carried interest loophole would save something on the order of $18 billion over ten years – or about 0.2 percent of the figure Trump’s proposal would add to the deficit.
"And that’s assuming that the Tax Foundation’s analysis is correct. On Tuesday afternoon, Len Burman, director of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, tweeted that he’s not sure that the effect on economic growth of the Trump plan would be positive at all.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/...t-Trumps-Tax-Plan-Would-Add-Trillions-Deficit