Trump selling yall out already

CaptainObvious said:
Y'all do know that Trump stated very publicly during the republican debates that he supported the pre existing medical conditions of the ACA. What everyone needs to get comfortable with is that he is neither democrat or republican. He is an opportunist with no party loyalty, which in the realm of politics might turn out to be a good thing. He can take the best of each party, point out the worst of both and implement what works. What we're going to see is if the hacks and pundits in each party are truly interested in the people they claim to represent, or if they just want to feed at the trough while accomplishing nothing as per usual
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Yep, he wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with open markets with the lawful proviso that insurers must accept citizens with pre-existing medical conditions.

Additionally he mentioned a direct tax reduction proportional to what each person must pay for medical insurance meaning that he is going to pay for it. That would then also cover the uninsured masses in a competitive market across state boundaries and so forcing premiums down. He is going to tax the bejesus out of his rich buddies to pay for it and the infrastructure initiative he is proposing.

The snowflakes protesting in the liberal cities are protesting the democratic outcome of a U.S. election driven by CNN and others screaming racism. President Obama refuses to condemn the protests so he appears to be giving them defacto support. The message that is being received by most of the country is that liberals are anti-democracy and anti-American. That just confirms what many already knew.
 
Tony Stark said:
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-wil...m-clinton-221013483--abc-news-topstories.html

Trump Willing to Keep Parts of Obamacare, Stays Mum on Clinton Prosecution

ALI ROGIN,Good Morning America 2 hours 41 minutes ago

After a campaign full of bombastic rhetoric over things like repealing and replacing Obamacare and sending Hillary Clinton to jail, the realities of legislating appear to be catching up to President-elect Donald Trump.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Trump acknowledged there are aspects of President Obama’s signature health care plan that he wants to maintain, like protecting patients with pre-existing conditions and allowing parents to keep their children on their own plans until age 26.

“I like those very much,” he said, according to the newspaper.

Most congressional Republicans would agree that in order to craft a viable alternative to the president’s law, they need to include at least those two aspects, which appear to be very popular with participants in the Affordable Care Act.

Both of the items Trump mentioned are included in House Speaker Paul Ryan’s “Better Way” health care agenda, although he has not yet offered actionable legislation to achieve them.

Trump also appeared to back off his desire to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, which prompted chants of “Lock Her Up!” at his rallies.

“It’s not something I’ve given a lot of thought, because I want to solve health care, jobs, border control, tax reform,” he said.

The office of Senate Judiciary Committee Chuck Grassley, who has vowed to continue investigating Clinton, did not respond to a request for comment.
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No matter what Trumps does now, even if it helps the poor and needy Democrats, they will still bitch about it. How pathetic can you get.
 
java said:
You never understood Trump and why we voted for him so how will you know when he sells us out? You do know that the republican health care plan that already passed the House has some kind of pre existing and children on parents policy in it. One poster has already suggested if Trump goes along with that he is selling his voters out. Like the man said, we never took Trump literally, but we were the ones who took him seriously. Your side has already proven you know nothing about us so what makes you think we will take seriously any of your sellout accusations since you don't even know what he can sell out on.
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Knowing what he will sellout on is trivial -- here is a list of 76 things, there are probably a bunch more, you should be girding your loins against. :D https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-76-of-donald-trumps-many-campaign-promises/

I think I, now, understand Trump perfectly, but I could be wrong of course. But what I'll never, ever, ever, ever, understand is how any literate and reasonably informed person could want that clown to run their country. And that explains nicely how it is that nearly half of those voting, voted for Trump!

I didn't take Trump seriously. That was a mistake! A really "huge" mistake No one has ever made a bigger mistake than I have! I'm the best there is when it comes to making mistakes. No one has more experience making mistakes than I have.

Trump is such an obvious loser -- uninformed liar, cheat, and poor business man -- I couldn't understand what his appeal was; not, until I realized what his sales technique was based on. He just parrots back to people what they already believe is true, regardless of how ridiculous it is. If someone parrots back to us something we are already convinced is true, truth isn't an issue, and the guy is a genius.* We reflexively accept as true anything said to us that we already believe is true. And we revere the person who says it. And once we know this person is a genius, we don't need to hear how he is going to fix all the things that we 'know' are wrong with our loser government. We only need to hear how great he is going to be at fixing everything. If we vote for this guy, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again.

Now I realize the potential damage he could cause, and I am concerned.** I should have taken him seriously. But ya'know if Peewee Herman ran for President, could you blame me for not taking him seriously?
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*An unfortunate characteristic of human nature, and our "eusocialness."
**While I am, as I said "concerned," I am less concerned about stupid things Trump might try to do than I am about a Republican House together with a Republican Senate trying to roll back some hard won libertarian victories. Roe v. Wade and Gay Marriage, for example.
 
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java said:
Selling us out is an invention of the other side. They have been reduced to telling us we should be pissed off. You see, you can't tell, and you can't tell us when we have been sold out. We can't be sold out because we haven't bought into anything. Man, your side has a lot to learn. For a progressive party you all sound like your brain went dead back in the 60's. Get with the program man. We have already moved ahead. Besides, he has already done what we voted for him to do. Anything now is just gravy.
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Wait minute, wait a G.D. minute. This clown is not President yet. Wait until at least friday afternoon on Jan. 20, 2017 to start being sold out. (You don't need to Gird Your Loins until approximately 2 pm on Jan 20th.)
 
Snarkhund said:
Additionally he mentioned a direct tax reduction proportional to what each person must pay for medical insurance meaning that he is going to pay for it.
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Ya hoo! Will Trump's 1 billion be enough however to pay for the medical costs of 350 million. Gee I hope so.
 
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piezoe said:
But what I'll never, ever, ever, ever, understand is how any literate and reasonably informed person could want that clown to run their country.
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Obviously we are illiterate buffoons who are too dimwitted to appreciate what is best for us and animated largely by hatred of minorities and foreigners and amused by women being disrespected.

You remind me of Obama, perpetually frustrated and annoyed by his misfortune at having to govern such a backward, intolerant country that did not sufficiently appreciate his brilliance.
 
piezoe said:
Knowing what he will sellout on is trivial -- here is a list of 76 things, there are probably a bunch more, you should be girding your loins against. :D https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-76-of-donald-trumps-many-campaign-promises/

I think I, now, understand Trump perfectly, but I could be wrong of course. But what I'll never, ever, ever, ever, understand is how any literate and reasonably informed person could want that clown to run their country. And that explains nicely how it is that nearly half of those voting, voted for Trump!

I didn't take Trump seriously. That was a mistake! A really "huge" mistake No one has ever made a bigger mistake than I have! I'm the best there is when it comes to making mistakes. No one has more experience making mistakes than I have.

Trump is such an obvious loser -- uninformed liar, cheat, and poor business man -- I couldn't understand what his appeal was; not, until I realized what his sales technique was based on. He just parrots back to people what they already believe is true, regardless of how ridiculous it is. If someone parrots back to us something we are already convinced is true, truth isn't an issue, and the guy is a genius.* We reflexively accept as true anything said to us that we already believe is true. And we revere the person who says it. And once we know this person is a genius, we don't need to hear how he is going to fix all the things that we 'know' are wrong with our loser government. We only need to hear how great he is going to be at fixing everything. If we vote for this guy, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again.

Now I realize the potential damage he could cause, and I am concerned.** I should have taken him seriously. But ya'know if Peewee Herman ran for President, could you blame me for not taking him seriously?
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*An unfortunate characteristic of human nature, and our "eusocialness."
**While I am, as I said "concerned," I am less concerned about stupid things Trump might try to do than I am about a Republican House together with a Republican Senate trying to roll back some hard won libertarian victories. Roe v. Wade and Gay Marriage, for example.
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Lol, lovin' your making mistakes bigly!
 
piezoe said:
Now I realize the potential damage he could cause, and I am concerned.** I should have taken him seriously. But ya'know if Peewee Herman ran for President, could you blame me for not taking him seriously.
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It really is a matter to be concerned of. Take a look at his best people , Bannon , Manafort , Lewandowski , Ailes , Christie , Giuliani , Carson , et al. These guys are all in it for the gravy.It's common knowledge that his campaign managers didn't get paid , they worked on a ''stock options'' basis (get me elected and you will be rewarded handsomely)
 
Putin just gave Trump his first assignment.


Putin spokesman calls on Trump to press NATO to withdraw from border

A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin is suggesting President-elect Donald Trump begin rebuilding the U.S.-Kremlin relationship by urging NATO to withdraw forces from the Russian border.


Dmitry Peskov told the Associated Press that such a move "would lead to a kind of detente in Europe."

Trump praised Putin repeatedly during his campaign and suggested the U.S. abandon its commitment to the NATO alliance.

NATO forces have recently increased their presence in Eastern Europe to counter Russian's increased presence in the region.

Peskov said in the interview that the NATO presence does not make Russia feel "safe."

"Of course, we have to take measures to counter," he said.

In a separate interview with the Associated Press on Thursday, Peskov insisted that Crimea, the region of Ukraine annexed by the Kremlin in 2014, is part of Russia.

"No one in Russia — never — will be ready to start any kind of discussion about Crimea," he said, refusing to call it "annexation."
 
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