Trump says troop sacrifice meaningless

[PintoFire]

What we're doing to the Kurds we pretty much did to our own troops after Vietnam too. So it seems like a pretty standard mode of operation now.

 

[newwurldmn]

Trump needed to appease Turkey because he has business interests there. Just ask Trump in 2015

“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump boasted in response. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers — two towers, instead of one, not the usual one; it’s two. And I’ve gotten to know Turkey very well. They’re amazing people, they’re incredible people. They have a strong leader.”

Was it in 2018 where he pledged where he would stand by the Kurds and defend them.

Why else would he make a unilateral decision to withdraw troops after speaking only with Turkey President when he has direct business interests. He ignored or never consulted military or political staff but decided that of all the troops around the world to save money he abandons the Kurds, leaves ISIS prisoners unguarded and AIDS Turkey to take out their "enemy"

We can talk all day about bullshit/not bullshit with Ukraine and impeachment...I personally from legal see it as a clusterfuck political media soundbyte.

But this......this to me truly goes to shitty Presidential behavior.

All that bullshit about ISIS and Kurds. "Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan considers the Kurdish forces in Syria to be terrorists allied with Kurdish insurgents within his country and has long threatened a military incursion into the area."

The White House said Erdogan told Trump of his plans to move ahead with a military incursion into Syria during a phone call on Sunday night.

A senior State Department official, who briefed reporters on the condition of anonymity, said the president made it clear in that phone call that the United States does not support Turkey’s plans to invade Syria “in any way shape or form.”

This official said Trump’s decision to withdraw two military units from the border was based on two goals: The president does not want U.S. forces to be seen as greenlighting Turkey’s plans, nor does he not want Americans in the line of fire if Erdogan goes through with his threat.

This is a man who thinks he knows better than anyone else and lies. You think the base is clamoring about pulling out of Syria and he is bragging he fulfilled a campaign promise? Bullshit, Syria not even a daily discussion point.

Trump did this in contradiction to his GOP Senators, Dept of State and intelligence community because:

1. Trump admires mroe dictatorial leaders who control everything and are not limited by a constitution or other political body

2. Trump puts his business interests first

3. Trump hates being told what to do and will do the opposite just to show how powerful he is even if it harms U.S. interest.

Do we need to have troops in Syria permanently ? Of course not. But to withdraw them now to help a foreign leader, abandon allies, and re release ISIS terrorists back into the world for revenge?

Asanine.

Might be the only thing GOP and Dems can coordinate on because the President of Turkey was not elected by the U.S. and does not make decisions for us to enrich Trump's towers.

Or he did it because everyone is talking about how many Kurds will be killed instead of a phone call to Ukraine.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Surprise, surprise, Turkey is launching an attack. We'll end up with 50K troops over there to "save the day". Hearts and minds to be won, schools and indoor plumbing for all. Shit never changes.

 

[kingjelly]

All he needed to do was leave the 50 troops there. Prisoners will go free, many of those who helped us will die. Absolute disgrace.

 

[Spike Trader]

Trump doesn't draw red lines , he simply kneels and take instructions from Putin.



‘Humanitarian catastrophe’: Civilians flee as Turkey launches Trump-sanctioned military assault on Kurds in Syria
October 9, 2019

Rights groups and anti-war activists warned of a looming “humanitarian catastrophe” Wednesday as Turkish forces invaded northeastern Syria and launched airstrikes against Kurdish targets, forcing civilians to flee in panic.

The attack comes days after U.S. President Donald Trump gave his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdoğan a green light to begin the operation by announcing the abrupt withdrawal of American forces from northeastern Syria.

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) warned in a statement Wednesday that Turkey’s assault “will spill the blood of thousands of innocent civilians because our border areas are overcrowded.”

On Twitter, SDF spokesman Mustafa Bali accused Turkey of deliberately targeting “civilian areas.”

Fighters with the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), which leads the SDF, told CNN that hundreds of civilians scrambled to escape northeastern Syria as Turkey began bombarding the area:

 

[Tsing Tao]

Trump doesn't draw red lines , he simply kneels and take instructions from Putin.



‘Humanitarian catastrophe’: Civilians flee as Turkey launches Trump-sanctioned military assault on Kurds in Syria
October 9, 2019

Rights groups and anti-war activists warned of a looming “humanitarian catastrophe” Wednesday as Turkish forces invaded northeastern Syria and launched airstrikes against Kurdish targets, forcing civilians to flee in panic.

The attack comes days after U.S. President Donald Trump gave his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdoğan a green light to begin the operation by announcing the abrupt withdrawal of American forces from northeastern Syria.

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) warned in a statement Wednesday that Turkey’s assault “will spill the blood of thousands of innocent civilians because our border areas are overcrowded.”

On Twitter, SDF spokesman Mustafa Bali accused Turkey of deliberately targeting “civilian areas.”

Fighters with the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), which leads the SDF, told CNN that hundreds of civilians scrambled to escape northeastern Syria as Turkey began bombarding the area:

He can't win with you guys anyway. He goes into Syria, you call him a warmonger and guilty of pushing a war without Congress's approval. Backs out and he's Putin's lap dog.

You know, for years I watched people on the right attack Obama for anything regardless of what he did and agreeing with the left when they said that very same thing. Little did I know the same folks were on the other side of the aisle and willing to forget all of that and become the very thing they rallied against.

 

[constitutionman]

He can't win with you guys anyway. He goes into Syria, you call him a warmonger and guilty of pushing a war without Congress's approval. Backs out and he's Putin's lap dog.

You know, for years I watched people on the right attack Obama for anything regardless of what he did and agreeing with the left when they said that very same thing. Little did I know the same folks were on the other side of the aisle and willing to forget all of that and become the very thing they rallied against.

Blah blah blah, keep up the bullshit, whatever makes you feel better about yourself, asshole.

 

[Spike Trader]

He didn't attack the right or defend Obama that time.

Trump is more concerned about protecting his ''Trump Towers'' in Turkey.

 

[Tsing Tao]

He didn't attack the right or defend Obama that time.

Trump is more concerned about protecting his ''Trump Towers'' in Turkey.

Who is "he"? I'm talking about you.

 

[UsualName]

This whole situation is fucked up with Trump and the Kurds but the speed at which he allowed Turkey to move on OUR ALLIES is insane. He left them with no time to plan an escape or defense. No time to seek other assistance. In a master of hours Turkey was on them.

This is a damn shame.