Trump Reverses Himself On 6 Major Issues In 2 Days

Well, in fairness, Trump confounded pretty much everybody in politics and the media. He broke every rule in the political playbook and won anyway because he is Trump.

He lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal aliens voting. Question: do you think there will be more or less of that next time?
 
Well, in fairness, Trump confounded pretty much everybody in politics and the media. He broke every rule in the political playbook and won anyway because he is Trump.

He lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal aliens voting. Question: do you think there will be more or less of that next time?


In 2016 Democrats had one of the lowest voter enthusiasm levels ever and republicans had one of the highest,and the best republicans could do is lose by 3 million overall and win The EC / MI,WI,PA by a combined 78,000.

In 2020 Democrats will be more enthusiastic than 2008.
 
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Well, in fairness, Trump confounded pretty much everybody in politics and the media. He broke every rule in the political playbook and won anyway because he is Trump.

He lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal aliens voting. Question: do you think there will be more or less of that next time?


BTW,how did you see my thread if you have me on ignore? The people I have on ignore I cant see their threads
 
If the national polls showed Hillary would get more votes,and she got 3 million more votes,the polls got it correct.Hillary just had the bad luck of being one of the 10 % that loses the election but more people voted for her.53 out 58 elections the person with the most votes won.
that's right there have been 5 minority presidents in U.S. History. Trump is one of them. The only one that was re-elected was G.W. Bush. However his race against Gore was a virtual tie, Gore got a few more popular votes than Bush. The other minority Presidents lost the popular vote by considerably wider margins, including Trump. Though we don't know yet whether Trump will be reelected, none of the others were. One of the others, Hayes, didn't even try.
 
that's right there have been 5 minority presidents in U.S. History. Trump is one of them. The only one that was re-elected was G.W. Bush. However his race against Gore was a virtual tie, Gore got a few more popular votes than Bush. The other minority Presidents lost the popular vote by considerably wider margins, including Trump. Though we don't know yet whether Trump will be reelected, none of the others were. One of the others, Hayes, didn't even try.


Good info :thumbsup:
 
He lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal aliens voting.
This is definitely, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, false. I would like to respect your opinion, though it differs from mine. But how can I when you suggest such a ridiculous thing! It as though you were Trump claiming that Obama was not born in Hawaii . You are suggesting fraud on a massive scale. Non citizens can not vote, let alone illegal aliens. You are suggesting fraud on a massive scale with out one shred of evidence for such massive fraud.
 
This is definitely, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, false. I would like to respect your opinion, though it differs from mine. But how can I when you suggest such a ridiculous thing! It as though you were Trump claiming that Obama was not born in Hawaii . You are suggesting fraud on a massive scale. Non citizens can not vote, let alone illegal aliens. You are suggesting fraud on a massive scale with out one shred of evidence for such massive fraud.

Here's your evidence.

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/ca...f-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote-2015-report/

13% of illegals ADMIT they vote. This doesn't even count the ones that don't admit it because who admits to a crime? If theres 13% that say they vote, theres at least double that amount that wont admit it. So probably another 26% vote that don't admit it. That's close to 40%. 13 million illegals x 40% = 5.2 million votes.

I mean we know FOR SURE that 1.7 million illegals voted based on their own admission. This admission was in 2015 before Trump starting running. Now do you think Trumps rhetoric increased or decreased illegal voting?

Checkmate.
 
Here's your evidence.


That is not evidence.How many arrest,convictions and proven fraudulent ballets were found in the 2016 election?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...election-official-denies-voter-fraud-epidemic


GOP election official denies voter fraud ‘epidemic’

By Nikita Vladimirov - 04/13/17 12:10 PM EDT


The Republican chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission says there is no voter fraud "epidemic" in the U.S.

Asked by the Center for Public Integrity if he thought the 2016 election was rigged, Matthew Masterson replied that the process was "extremely well administered."

"No. The process had integrity. It was extremely well administered. And in the end, the people's voice was heard and the process served voters well," Masterson said in an interview published on Thursday.

He argued that while any voter fraud must cause concern, the practice is not "widespread."

"Any fraud at all is something to be concerned about. The reality — and this data and information comes from those who directly run elections — is that the state and local election officials, and specifically the secretaries of state across the country that looked into it, find that fraud happens. It's not widespread. It's not an epidemic."
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ction-were-fraudulent/?utm_term=.937c240692f7

There have been just four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election

By Philip Bump December 1, 2016

Three weeks ago, the votes of more than 135 million Americans were counted, and Donald Trump was declared the winner of the 2016 presidential election. It was a surprising result, given that polling in the run-up to the election suggested that Hillary Clinton's support in the Midwest would ensure that she could hit 270 electoral votes. That support didn't exist when it came time to vote, and that was that.

It seemed very likely as Nov. 8 approached that Trump was poised to reject the result, regardless of which states fell into which candidate's column. For months, he'd been alleging that voter fraud was rampant and that his supporters needed to police the polls. Rather amazingly, he has picked up the same thread after the election, charging that Clinton won the popular vote (by 2.5 million votes and counting) solely because of fraudulent ballots.

There wasn't evidence of widespread voter fraud before the election. There isn't evidence of widespread voter fraud afterward, either. In fact, there's not evidence of even modest voter fraud.

We combed through the news-aggregation system Nexis to find demonstrated cases of absentee or in-person voter fraud — which is to say, examples of people getting caught casting a ballot that they shouldn't have cast — during this election. This excludes examples of voter registration fraud — the filing of fraudulent information. Those aren't votes cast — and given that organizations often provide incentives for employees to register as many people as possible, registration fraud cases (while still rare) are more common.

Here's what we found:

Cases of voter fraud

A woman in Iowa who voted twice. Terri Lynn Rote had the enormous misfortune of bad timing. Right as the candidate she supported, Trump, was drawing attention to fraud cases, Rote decided to try to vote twice in Des Moines, and got caught. The case made national headlines simply by virtue of the fact that it happened when it did, and that she voted for Trump.

For what it's worth, she suggested that the fault lay with Trump. “The polls are rigged,” she said to a local radio station by way of explaining her multiple votes, echoing another of Trump's complaints.

A man in Texas who voted twice. Phillip Cook was arrested on Election Day after voting twice. He claimed to be an employee of Trump's campaign who was testing the security of the electoral system. He wasn't an employee of the campaign — and the polling location's security worked perfectly well, it seems.

A woman who cast a ballot on behalf of her dead husband. Audrey Cook is a Republican election judge in Illinois. She and her husband applied for absentee ballots because he was ill. He died before completing his, so she filled it out for him and sent it in. The ballot will not be counted.

A woman in Florida who marked absentee ballots. Gladys Coego was hired to open absentee ballots in Miami-Dade County. One of her co-workers noticed that she was going a step further, filling in the bubble for a mayoral candidate with a pen she had in her purse. She was caught in the act and arrested. There's no evidence that she changed any presidential votes.
 
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