Trump reveals his birth certificate

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Maverick74:

Are you f*cking crazy? That's not rhetorical. Are you f*cking crazy?

Dude, rich people don't get 1040's or W-2's. They own assets. They don't pay any taxes on those assets until they sell them. You can cut taxes to zero for the rich and it's not going to benefit them a single penny. that's rhetoric used by the idiot left to get them all excited and angry. You have a lot to learn Gabby. Go back to school.

The disparity has grown under Bush. Right Wing policy apologists claim that supply side is good for the middle class. Show me where. Tax cuts for the rich are supposed to create jobs by virtue of the trickle down. Show me where. Bush had 8 years. Show me where. In fact, eveything had gotten worse for the middle class during the 8 Bush years. If not, then show me where.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Ricter:

Gabby is you are or aint are you is too?

A little early to be drinking isn't it?

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Gabfly1:

The disparity has grown under Bush. Right Wing policy apologists claim that supply side is good for the middle class. Show me where. Tax cuts for the rich are supposed to create jobs by virtue of the trickle down. Show me where. Bush had 8 years. Show me where.

Great, now you are acting like a whiny child again. Tax cuts for the "middle class", not the rich since they don't pay much in taxes, go back into the market via investments and discretionary spending. Discretionary spending DOES create jobs. So does investment in risk assets. It's marginal, in other words it's not necessarily going to create an economic boom, but it does create jobs. Look at silicon valley for example. All that money that poured into those tech companies in the 90's not only revolutionized the tech industry but created 100's of thousands of high paying jobs that never would have been created without the private equity and stock equity that preceded it. That is a fact.

 

[Gabfly1]

Quote from Maverick74:

Great, now you are acting like a whiny child again. Tax cuts for the "middle class", not the rich since they don't pay much in taxes, go back into the market via investments and discretionary spending. Discretionary spending DOES create jobs. So does investment in risk assets. It's marginal, in other words it's not necessarily going to create an economic boom, but it does create jobs. Look at silicon valley for example. All that money that poured into those tech companies in the 90's not only revolutionized the tech industry but created 100's of thousands of high paying jobs that never would have been created without the private equity and stock equity that preceded it. That is a fact.

So when will the magical effect of the Bush years kick in and render harvest? And why is it that during the actual Bush years it had to get worse first insofar as everyone but the rich are concerned?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jficquette:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/page?id=13248168

It shows that "Donald John Trump" was born June 14, 1946 in Jamaica Hospital in Queens.It lists his father as Fred C. Trump and his mother as Mary Mac Leod. The date of the report is listed as June 14, 1946.

The image came with an accompanying memo from a member of Trump's staff.

"A 'birth certificate' and a 'certificate of live birth' are in no way the same thing, even though in some cases they use some of the same words," wrote Trump staffer Thuy Colayco in a message to ABC News. "One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child. Also, a 'certificate of live birth' is very easy to get because the standards are much lower, while a 'birth certificate' is only gotten through a long and detailed process wherein identity must be proved beyond any doubt. If you had only a certificate of live birth, you would not be able to get a proper passport from the Post Office or a driver’s license from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Therefore, there is very significant difference between a 'certificate of live birth' and a 'birth certificate' and one should never be confused with the other."



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MhNKsBHjc...ACsE/5AcMlBUY8P8/s1600/%21ATrumpLong-Form.jpg

This is false.The only birth certificate that matters in this country is a states official birth certificate.In the State of Hawaii the"certificate of live birth" with the States seal and stamp is the States official birth certificate .It is the only birth certificate that the State of Hawaii currently issues and it can be used for driver’s licenses,passports,join the military and anything else that requires a birth certificate

 

[RCG Trader]

Taxes need to be kept low for businesses and the creators of businesses.

Taxes inhibit growth because it creates a barrier to expansion. Illniois is currently in a terrible spot because Gov. Quinn raised income taxes, and now CAT is threatening to leave. If CAT follows thru on it's promise, you think California was bad? You aint seen nuttin. Central Illinois will grind to a halt. Thousands of jobs will be lost. Will this ultimately be good or bad for Illinois?

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Maverick74:

Great, now you are acting like a whiny child again. Tax cuts for the "middle class", not the rich since they don't pay much in taxes, go back into the market via investments and discretionary spending. Discretionary spending DOES create jobs. So does investment in risk assets. It's marginal, in other words it's not necessarily going to create an economic boom, but it does create jobs. Look at silicon valley for example. All that money that poured into those tech companies in the 90's not only revolutionized the tech industry but created 100's of thousands of high paying jobs that never would have been created without the private equity and stock equity that preceded it. That is a fact.

Excellent argument for government spending! The recent stimulus, and, for one example, the money spent on arpanet.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Gabfly1:

So when will the magical effect of the Bush years kick in and render harvest? And why is it that during the actual Bush years it had to get worse first?

Dude, did you see what happened in 2008? LOL. Those "assets" the rich had got cut in half. Credit froze. There is a mountain of cash sitting out there that just needs some incentive to be invested back into risk assets. It's slowly coming back in. It's not an overnight thing.

BTW, we can thank the Clinton administration for that nice gift they left, the tech bubble and all the corporate scandals of the 90's.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Ricter:

Excellent argument for government spending! The recent stimulus, and, for one example, the money spent on arpanet.

Not quite skippy. Although you are correct, in that they both are the same. But they are not both applied efficiently. The free market will allocate risk capital far better then government bureaucrats 100 times out of a 100.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Gabfly1:

The disparity has grown under Bush...

...and don't forget Bush also single handily caused both a tsunami and a huricane.