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Usual Name you have it completely backward. It is amazing to me.
Time after time you put blinders to protect your world view.
Today's liberals are not even close to classical liberals. In many cases you are in favor of the big state and anti liberty and freedom. You favor restricting freedom with Carbon credits. All over Europe you restrict speech with hate crime legislation. Everyday your side and establishment republicans find ways to usurp individual freedom and liberty. You try to take away gun rights. You make us wear helmets when riding motorcycles. You try to ban sugary drinks. The list goes on and on. You try to force people to bake cakes and allow men in womens bathrooms. The last think you believe in is trying to keep govt out of our business...

in general...



And while I see Wikipedia said Classical Liberalism started in the 19th century it is pretty much wrong. The name may have be attached by some to that period of time, but the ideas were pre Jeffersonian. When I studied econ and American history I learned that Jefferson a founding father and classical liberal got many of his ideas from other liberals like John Locke. Liberals believe in the freedom and rights of individuals versus the monachy, state or church.

for instance... this site is correct.

https://www.learnliberty.org/blog/what-is-classical-liberalism/

The key, basic insights of classical liberalism were first developed in the late 18th and early 19th century, at which time they weren’t split up into separate disciplines. Was Adam Smith an economist or a philosopher? A sociologist or a psychologist? In some sense he was all of them. And that was true of the other scholars who were around at that time.


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today's conservatism is classical liberalism...
think about what David Brat ran on to defeat his establishment opponent, Cantor.

in lines up almost perfectly with this...

https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism

"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade. Up until around 1900, this ideology was generally known simply as liberalism. The qualifying "classical" is now usually necessary, in English-speaking countries at least (but not, for instance, in France), because liberalism has come to be associated with wide-ranging interferences with private property and the market on behalf of egalitarian goals. This version of liberalism — if such it can still be called — is sometimes designated as "social," or (erroneously) "modern" or the "new," liberalism. Here we shall use liberalism to signify the classical variety.
 
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Todays American liberals are in fact in the same form of liberalism as the founders of this country.
this is so incorrect that I can’t even...
I assume you are fresh outta college and have been taught by leftist professors the their political views are the same as the Founders.
Hilarious.
 
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Rick Santelli on CNBC started the movement. Ron Paul supposrters May have identified and attached themselves to the tea party moniker but the movement was much bigger than them.

Conservative and libertarian are not the same thing. They overlap on some fiscal issues but social issues are worlds apart.

As to neocons co-opting the movement, they did that with race based issues. It’s the same old song, republicans will screw you over financially but make you feel like you’re getting revenge on the inner city minorities.

As to the Democratic Party being in shambles, “see them rise, watch them fall.” The Republican Party was deviated from 2006 until 2010. Somehow they’re back in power.

Currently the republicans enjoy major gerrymandering advantages in the House from their gains in 2010. The 2020 census and state level elections will be critical to see which party controls the House in the next decade. Things have a way of changing.
Ugh Santelli didn’t start the movement. This is a myth. He simply fanned the flame that Ron Paul and his supporters had lit over the previous year’s election cycle.

A commentator on CNBC didn’t start this movement - an honest politician with truly conservative AND Libertarian philosophies who led and inspired millions did.
 
Usual Name you have it completely backward. It is amazing to me.
Time after time you put blinders to protect your world view.
Today's liberals are not even close to classical liberals. In many cases you are in favor of the big state and anti liberty and freedom. You favor restricting freedom with Carbon credits. All over Europe you restrict speech with hate crime legislation. Everyday your side and establishment republicans find ways to usurp individual freedom and liberty. You try to take away gun rights. You make us wear helmets when riding motorcycles. You try to ban sugary drinks. The list goes on and on. You try to force people to bake cakes and allow men in womens bathrooms. The last think you believe in is trying to keep govt out of our business...

in general...



And while I see Wikipedia said Classical Liberalism started in the 19th century it is pretty much wrong. The name may have be attached by some to that period of time, but the ideas were pre Jeffersonian. When I studied econ and American history I learned that Jefferson a founding father and classical liberal got many of his ideas from other liberals like John Locke. Liberals believe in the freedom and rights of individuals versus the monachy, state or church.

for instance... this site is correct.

https://www.learnliberty.org/blog/what-is-classical-liberalism/

The key, basic insights of classical liberalism were first developed in the late 18th and early 19th century, at which time they weren’t split up into separate disciplines. Was Adam Smith an economist or a philosopher? A sociologist or a psychologist? In some sense he was all of them. And that was true of the other scholars who were around at that time.


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today's conservatism is classical liberalism...
think about what David Brat ran on to defeat his establishment opponent, Cantor.

in lines up almost perfectly with this...

https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism

"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade. Up until around 1900, this ideology was generally known simply as liberalism. The qualifying "classical" is now usually necessary, in English-speaking countries at least (but not, for instance, in France), because liberalism has come to be associated with wide-ranging interferences with private property and the market on behalf of egalitarian goals. This version of liberalism — if such it can still be called — is sometimes designated as "social," or (erroneously) "modern" or the "new," liberalism. Here we shall use liberalism to signify the classical variety.

I’m sorry, sir, but you’re citing an opinion blog from a right wing web site, that is as confused as you are.

You can believe anything you want. You right wingers are good at living in a fantasy world.
 
this is so incorrect that I can’t even...
I assume you are fresh outta college and have been taught by leftist professors the their political views are the same as the Founders.
Hilarious.

You assumed wrong.
 
Ugh Santelli didn’t start the movement. This is a myth. He simply fanned the flame that Ron Paul and his supporters had lit over the previous year’s election cycle.

A commentator on CNBC didn’t start this movement - an honest politician with truly conservative AND Libertarian philosophies who led and inspired millions did.

To echo Tony Stark’s point, where is the Tea Party now that Trump blew up the deficit?

It goes to show you that the tea party, like most things on the right, was more about getting revenge on minorities than any kind of fiscal ideology.
 
It goes to show you that the tea party, like most things on the right, was more about getting revenge on minorities than any kind of fiscal ideology.

IMO that’s way off and is just parroting Nancy Pelosi’s Party of Victimhood mantra (just as obnoxious as the Republican 9/11 mantra, btw).

The Tea Party was an internal rebellion and about knocking out moderate Republicans who frequently voted with their Democrat colleagues on big ticket spending programs. The Tea Party death was a protracted fratricide - courtesy of Mitch McConnell and other Party leaders who were horrified at the collateral Party damage.

You need to remember that under President Obama, depending upon who you ask he added between 6 to 9 Trillion to the national debt. And he got plenty of help from moderate Republicans along the way - which infuriated voters.

And yes, the nation was in two wars and was trying to recover from a financial crisis.

I can assure you the Tea Party was not John Boehner’s idea.
 
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Trumps handwritten letter to Kim
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IMO that’s way off and is just parroting Nancy Pelosi’s Party of Victimhood mantra (just as obnoxious as the Republican 9/11 mantra, btw)..

This is hilarious considering that your dear leader just finished another round of playing the victim using complete lies.
 
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