Trump pardons former Navy sailor imprisoned for taking photos on nuclear submarine, White House says

[Poindexter]

So? Nobody said it doesn't make it classified you fucking retard, I said people cannot be held liable for it.

YOU did, clueless blowhard, when you wrote this:

If I wrote 'DRONES' in this post, then that's classified information, it doesn't make this post a classified document unless an original OCA marks it in one of three categories.

There's no such thing as a post containing classified information that's not classified, you mental midget.

there is no way you can prosecute someone for something that the person doesn't know is classified because it isn't marked or trained for it.

When someone should have known the information's classified you absolutely can, clueless blowhard. That's why that language is in the NDA. And there's no question that Hillary should have known given her position.

May want to read the liability document again retard instead of posting pictures that your Nazi Trump friends brainwashed you with.
In no instance may a party to the SF 312, SF 189 or SF 189-A be liable for violating its nondisclosure provisions by disclosing information when, at the time of the disclosure, there is no basis to suggest, other than pure speculation, that the information is classified or in the process of a classification determination.
http://www.archives.gov/isoo/training/standard-form-312.html

A picture from my "nazi Trump friends"? I'm a Jew and don't have any nazi friends. And you're a repugnant asshole for minimizing what actual nazis did by calling people nazis you don't agree with. Are you another democRAT Jew-hater? So try again because that's an actual NDA and the one Hillary signed. You're also an un-American piece of shit for trying to throw 'equal justice' and a sailor under the bus to defend your corrupt queen -- traitor Hillary Clinton.

According to the FBI the information was classified at the time it was sent or received. Also, MORE mishandled classified info has been discovered since this:

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification."
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

 

[exGOPer]

YOU did, clueless blowhard, when you wrote this:

There's no such thing as a post containing classified information that's not classified, you mental midget.

Any document including a post can be labeled classified by an OCA if he so chooses, how you can't comprehend that is the symptom of an inbred Conservative brain. What makes a post special? It's in electronic form of communication and if determined to be classified, it would be removed from public access and archived.

When someone should have known the information's classified you absolutely can, clueless blowhard. That's why that language is in the NDA. And there's no question that Hillary should have known given her position.

Then why the fuck isn't the Trump DOJ prosecuting her if it's so fucking cut and dry.

Where is the goddamn prosecution you retard.

A picture from my "nazi Trump friends"? I'm a Jew and don't have any nazi friends. And you're a repugnant asshole for minimizing what actual nazis did by calling people nazis you don't agree with. Are you another democRAT Jew-hater? So try again because that's an actual NDA and the one Hillary signed. You're also an un-American piece of shit for trying to throw 'equal justice' and a sailor under the bus to defend your corrupt queen -- traitor Hillary Clinton.

The sailor lied about the photos, lied to the investigators and destroyed evidence when asked about it - many people who took photos of submarines weren't prosecuted for this exact same difference. Learn to read facts instead of parroting retarded right wing talking points.

And if NDA signed makes HIllary liable, where the fuck is the prosecution you piece of Nazi shit.

According to the FBI the information was classified at the time it was sent or received. Also, MORE mishandled classified info has been discovered since this:

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification."
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

The information was, the DOCUMENT wasn't labeled as such, learn to know the fucking difference.

Trump gave Russians highly classified information he knew to be classified, when he is gonna be locked for that treason.


Yea, now you get to know who an OCA is and what are their powers and stop comparing a sailor who wasn't an OCA to an actual OCA of the state department.

Do you even know what OCA stands for you peabrained idiot?

 

[Poindexter]

Any document including a post can be labeled classified by an OCA if he so chooses, how you can't comprehend that is the symptom of an inbred Conservative brain. What makes a post special? It's in electronic form of communication and if determined to be classified, it would be removed from public access and archived.



Then why the fuck isn't the Trump DOJ prosecuting her if it's so fucking cut and dry.

Where is the goddamn prosecution you retard.




The sailor lied about the photos, lied to the investigators and destroyed evidence when asked about it - many people who took photos of submarines weren't prosecuted for this exact same difference. Learn to read facts instead of parroting retarded right wing talking points.

And if NDA signed makes HIllary liable, where the fuck is the prosecution you piece of Nazi shit.




The information was, the DOCUMENT wasn't labeled as such, learn to know the fucking difference.

Trump gave Russians highly classified information he knew to be classified, when he is gonna be locked for that treason.


Yea, now you get to know who an OCA is and what are their powers and stop comparing a sailor who wasn't an OCA to an actual OCA of the state department.

Do you even know what OCA stands for you peabrained idiot?

It's obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but yet you keep digging. Get it through your thick skull that ALL documents containing classified information are classified whether they're properly labeled or not and not marking one doesn't declassify it or automatically give anyone an excuse for being careless with it. Also get it through your thick skull that OCAs aren't exempt from the laws governing the mishandling of classified information. Hillary should be prosecuted and maybe she will be. Calling Jews nazis is typical of what you filthy leftists do and why Trump won. Ironically, all you're accomplishing is making people twice as determined to stomp your sick twisted culture into the ground.

 

[exGOPer]

It's obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but yet you keep digging. Get it through your thick skull that ALL documents containing classified information are classified whether they're properly labeled or not and not marking one doesn't declassify it or automatically give anyone an excuse for being careless with it. Also get it through your thick skull that OCAs aren't exempt from the laws governing the mishandling of classified information. Hillary should be prosecuted and maybe she will be. Calling Jews nazis is typical of what you filthy leftists do and why Trump won. Ironically, all you're accomplishing is making people twice as determined to stomp your sick twisted culture into the ground.

So I have no idea, independent legal analysts have no idea and Trump's own DOJ doesn't have any idea but you who did not know the difference between the legal liability for an OCA versus a sailor who was neither an OCA and was subject to UCMJ has all the ideas?

If OCA aren't exempt then why is Trump, an OCA himself not being prosecuted for giving highly classified info to Russians?

And I call your ilk Nazis because that's what you are trending towards, do you want examples, I am happy to give them.

 

[Poindexter]

So I have no idea, independent legal analysts have no idea and Trump's own DOJ doesn't have any idea but you who did not know the difference between the legal liability for an OCA versus a sailor who was neither an OCA and was subject to UCMJ has all the ideas?

Show me the exemption for OCAs mishandling classified information in 18 U.S. Code § 793. Don't bother. There isn't one.

If OCA aren't exempt then why is Trump, an OCA himself not being prosecuted for giving highly classified info to Russians?

Apples and oranges. First of all, OCAs' authority comes from the president and, unlike OCAs who can only declassify info in their lanes, the president can unilaterally declassify anything. Second, either Trump decided to declassify that info, or he made an honest mistake. Unlike Hillary who set up an illegal server, lied about it, deleted emails that were under subpoena, and potentially exposed lots of classified information she didn't have the authority to declassify. And even if she did, being an OCA doesn't excuse it because that's not the way OCAs are required by the president to declassify information.

And I call your ilk Nazis because that's what you are trending towards, do you want examples, I am happy to give them.

No, you're scum because you call Jews nazis so go have that conversation with another Jew-hating leftist.

 

[exGOPer]

Show me the exemption for OCAs mishandling classified information in 18 U.S. Code § 793. Don't bother. There isn't one.

That statute doesn't define classified information you idiot, show me where it says classified information? Nowhere.

Classified information can only be designated by an OCA and you can't prosecute the person who designates it.

Apples and oranges. First of all, OCAs' authority comes from the president and, unlike OCAs who can only declassify info in their lanes, the president can unilaterally declassify anything.

No you idiot, President is the OCA and he designates that power to head of other departments who have the same authority as the President for each of their departments, if Hillary as an OCA is liable for her work at the state department then Trump is as well.

Second, either Trump decided to declassify that info, or he made an honest mistake. Unlike Hillary who set up an illegal server, lied about it, deleted emails that were under subpoena, and potentially exposed lots of classified information she didn't have the authority to declassify.

You are the only one lying.

What law did the server break? How can an inanimate server break a law.

What did she lie about, Comey said she didn't.

The subpoena was for Benghazi emails and were given before the subpoena, Congress has no powers to subpoena any other thing so again, more bullshit.

Fourth, information was exposed to who? Name one person who wasn't authorized and saw the email content.

And even if she did, being an OCA doesn't excuse it because that's not the way OCAs are required by the president to declassify information.

It wasn't classified in the first place you moron, what was there to declassify. Classified info is not same as classified document

No, you're scum because you call Jews nazis so go have that conversation with another Jew-hating leftist.

Seems you don't know many of your ilk

It was also asserted — in this instance accurately — that an Instagram account linked to Cruz featured an avatar that included a hat bearing the slogan “MAGA” (“Make America Great Again,” a catchphrase used by President Trump and his supporters).


CNN reported that beginning in August 2017, Cruz participated in a private Instagram chat group in which he felt free to vent his hatred of minority groups:

In one part of the group chat, Cruz wrote that he hated, “jews, ni**ers, immigrants.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nikolas-cruz-white-supremacist-group/