Trump: "Our stupid leaders"

Quote from Scataphagos:

I served in the Air Force on Okinawa and Taiwan during Vietnam... never was in country. From Kadena, Okinawa... we sent B-52 bombers and recon planes over Vitenam. The first day I was on Okinawa, I saw an SR-71 and a U2 in flight and landing on the base.

Had guns as a kid. Used to practice shooting postage stamps as targets. Unfortunately for the local birds, I was a good shot.

In HS, we had a rifle team. Shot .22s... the "10-ring" was the same size as the .22 bullet... smaller than an aspirin. Everybody on the team could regularly shoot nearly 100 on 10 targets except for the standing/off-hand position.

One summer our team got to fire on the Ft. Carson Army range with M-14. The recoil kept jacking the end of the receiver up into my lip. Swollen and bloody (well, bleeding a bit) by the end, but I wasn't letting that deter me from trying to make an Expert Marksman qualification at ranges up to and including 400 yards.... same as the regular Army qualification.

You're probably the only guy around here that can say that ! The SR71 is funny. From what I recall, the first flight was 1964. But that was well after the US entered the war. I've heard the blackbird was in service well before that - late 50's. Do you remember the year you saw her? Must have been quite a sight at the time - that bird still looks futuristic by todays standards. What type of aircraft did you fly? I always wanted to be an airforce pilot back in grade school. My dad talked me out of it, bad vision and tall (6'4). Bit too lanky for a cockpit. Chicks seem to dig it, tho. That's a hell of a shot.
 
Quote from achilles28:

You're probably the only guy around here that can say that ! The SR71 is funny. From what I recall, the first flight was 1964. But that was well after the US entered the war. I've heard the blackbird was in service well before that - late 50's. Do you remember the year you saw her? Must have been quite a sight at the time - that bird still looks futuristic by todays standards. What type of aircraft did you fly? I always wanted to be an airforce pilot back in grade school. My dad talked me out of it, bad vision and tall (6'4). Bit too lanky for a cockpit. Chicks seem to dig it, tho. That's a hell of a shot.

I got to Kadena in the summer of '68. Seeing an SR-71 and U2 in action left an impression.

I didn't fly. Worked in communications tech control. All communications functions were directed through our station... so that we could troubleshoot as necessary and get things back online.... land line, radio, teletype, weather, radar, crypto.

Besides Vietnam actions, Kadena was significant. Had control jurisdiction over 800,000 square miles of Pacific air traffic.
 
No takers? I'm actually curious, not being facetious.

Quote from Savant:

So, specifically, what are you guys' projections in the worst case scenario. The 'worst case scenario' being that Obama gets reelected , China is ignored, the border remains mostly porous, nothing is dont about illegals, stupid spending continues with meaningless platitude 'austerity' measures to placate congress, so on, so forth. Throw in the possibility of some amnesty effort, yada yada... So, if that basic scenario transpires, what do you guys see as actually transpiring? What do these quasi apocalyptic projections consist of?
 
Quote from Savant:

No takers? I'm actually curious, not being facetious.

Any outcome is possible, but if you've read some world economic history... odds are something like.... huge inflation, currency destruction, bankruptcy of all but the very richest of citizens... followed by some sort of Messiah who will "deliver the people" from their concerns... usually with a dictatorial boot on everyone's neck. Or, the country survives, but is owned and governed by somebody else... thought of as "outsiders". In any event, the original citizens are left bankrupt and subservient.

If the average American had even the slightest clue, Odumbo would have already been tarred and feathered... run out of town on a rail. (Bush too, for that matter.)
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Any outcome is possible, but if you've read some world economic history... odds are something like.... huge inflation, currency destruction, bankruptcy of all but the very richest of citizens... followed by some sort of Messiah who will "deliver the people" from their concerns... usually with a dictatorial boot on everyone's neck. Or, the country survives, but is owned and governed by somebody else... thought of as "outsiders". In any event, the original citizens are left bankrupt and subservient.

If the average American had even the slightest clue, Odumbo would have already been tarred and feathered... run out of town on a rail. (Bush too, for that matter.)

You start out making sense, but you just can't help yourself, you have to tack on a non sequitur criticism of Obama. You remain this board's weakest link.
 
Quote from Savant:

So, specifically, what are you guys' projections in the worst case scenario. The 'worst case scenario' being that Obama gets reelected ,

Imo, I really don't see Obama running again (yea, I know I know, he always campaigning but I suspect he'll drop out and hand it over to someone else and the money too.)

Suppose he does run and win, Imo, he won't attract the intellectual capital to continue as an effective leader, no one will want to work with or for him.

Congress wil be influenced by people like Hank Paulson who peaded to Congress for the bail outs. Congress will be forced to make crisis descions many won't like but in the end we'll all live happily ever after.
 
Quote from Savant:

So, specifically, what are you guys' projections in the worst case scenario. The 'worst case scenario' being that Obama gets reelected ,

Don't know if that's the "worst possible case"... after all, wouldn't China sending ICBM nukes over here be worse?

Other than that, an Odumbo reelection has to rank up there with "worst possible fates"... even worse than his 1st time election when he was more-or-less an unknown quantity. Now that we KNOW him, we'd have to be suicidal or greedily stupid to reelect him.

:( :(
 
Seems like we have all of these licensing and aptitude exams for most professions: Electrician, lawyer, engineer, accountant but require absolutely nothing more than winning a popularity contest for those elected to represent and run our country.

Seems assanine to put someone that you would never hire to be ceo of your business in charge of the worlds biggest business.

Maybe as an alternative to the 2 party system we allow a corporate structure consisting of employees and officers who are elected as a single collective unit with unified agenda to assume the senate, house and executive posts.
 
So you're leaning towards a Carter style faux pas...

Quote from nutmeg:

Imo, I really don't see Obama running again (yea, I know I know, he always campaigning but I suspect he'll drop out and hand it over to someone else and the money too.)

Suppose he does run and win, Imo, he won't attract the intellectual capital to continue as an effective leader, no one will want to work with or for him.

Congress wil be influenced by people like Hank Paulson who peaded to Congress for the bail outs. Congress will be forced to make crisis descions many won't like but in the end we'll all live happily ever after.
 
Quote from nutmeg:

Imo, I really don't see Obama running again (yea, I know I know, he always campaigning but I suspect he'll drop out and hand it over to someone else and the money too.)


WTF ? He's already running and he's winning in the 2 most recent polls. He's kicking Trumps ass by 12 and 15 points :confused:
 
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