all I know is I am an American, and everybody else is something else
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Trump Is Right About Birth Citizenship
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Yeah there are going to be consequences in some areas but overall it will benefit the nation. i won't be suffering any consequences and don't have any sympathy for those who will because they shouldn't have been here in the first place. Too bad for the businesses etc that employ them.I was living in Nogales when they first tried to "Tighten up the borders, do a better job of going after e verify" and it would have just about destroyed the economy of the whole town. Looks nice on paper when you are far away from it in an office with a computer, but quite a bit different when it is real people, both Mexicans and Americans you are talking about.
seriously? You'd screw another businessman because some law which doesn't even affect you directly will destroy his business because in your little pristine world far away from reality it is "illegal"? Good luck with that pot smoking.Yeah there are going to be consequences in some areas but overall it will benefit the nation. i won't be suffering any consequences and don't have any sympathy for those who will because they shouldn't have been here in the first place. Too bad for the businesses etc that employ them.
My take is that the people who wrote the constitution were not a bunch of ignoramouses that wrote all kinds of ambiguous things.
I think the meaning of 'subject to the jurisdiction' and 'natural born citizen' were completely understood at the time, just as the people who wrote the clauses or ammendments stated. There was not need to try to be more clear because it was understood by all.
They shouldn't be held responsible because a hundred years later people started using the terms differently. The senator that wrote the fourteenth knew what he as doing in my opinion.
If the word 'gay' was in the constitution, there would be endless debate about what it meant. And one side would be saying that it is 'clear' and 'unambiguous' that they were talking about homos.
I think the meaning of 'subject to the jurisdiction' and 'natural born citizen' were completely understood at the time, just as the people who wrote the clauses or ammendments stated. There was not need to try to be more clear because it was understood by all.
They shouldn't be held responsible because a hundred years later people started using the terms differently. The senator that wrote the fourteenth knew what he as doing in my opinion.
If the word 'gay' was in the constitution, there would be endless debate about what it meant. And one side would be saying that it is 'clear' and 'unambiguous' that they were talking about homos.
Yeah seriously, fuck illegal immigrants, their entitlement attitude and their supporters/employers. i don't smoke pot, and I know that unchecked immigration, legal or illegal. will ruin this country. Immigration law, or the lack of enforcement of the law, does effect everyone here.seriously? You'd screw another businessman because some law which doesn't even affect you directly will destroy his business because in your little pristine world far away from reality it is "illegal"? Good luck with that pot smoking.
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you are not fucking illegal immigrants, we can all do that anytime we want. You are fucking fellow businessmen, and they are hard to come by. It's not like the world has an endless supply of businessmen you might want to do business with.Yeah seriously, fuck illegal immigrants, their entitlement attitude and their supporters/employers. i don't smoke pot, and don't know what your babble about "my pristine world" even means.
even if this nonsense were true, I just checked and.. i still don't give a shit.you are not fucking illegal immigrants, we can all do that anytime we want. You are fucking fellow businessmen, and they are hard to come by. It's not like the world has an endless supply of businessmen you might want to do business with.
you are not fucking illegal immigrants, we can all do that anytime we want. You are fucking fellow businessmen, and they are hard to come by. It's not like the world has an endless supply of businessmen you might want to do business with.
So your position is we should go along with fundamentally altering the culture of our country for the benefit of some businessmen who can make more money by employing illegals?
In fairness, that is the position of both political parties and the media. After all, they need someone to cut their grass. Their prescious little pampered children can't possibly operate a lawn mower.
So when the Constitution says "all people" it doesn't mean "all people". Got it.Yes, Stu is right about what it says, but not about what it means.
I don't see it as a huge reach for the Court to rule that illegals cannot benefit by violating the law and producing anchor babies, which then can be used as a basis for even more ridiculous chain immigration.
I agree. The Court could rule against illegals trying to benefit by producing anchor babies or whatever else.
But not against new borns on American soil. That would simply be grossly un constitutional.