Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot

[Buy1Sell2]

Please go read the last paragraph,

“The challenger or candidate may appeal this decision by commencing an action in the Superior Court within 5 days of this date, pursuant to 21-A MRSA section 337, subsection 2, paragraph D."

If GOP don't file by Jan 2nd, the name is off the ballot.

AMNESTY ACT OF 1872
---Specifically, the 1872 Act removed office-holding disqualifications against most of the secessionists who rebelled in the American Civil War, except for "Senators and Representatives of the thirty-sixth and thirty-seventh Congresses, officers in the judicial, military, and naval service of the United States, heads of departments, and foreign ministers of the United States."

 

[mervyn]

Where does it say "no person shall be President" in this amendment?
---No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.---

what are you talking about? all government positions are included.

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says: “No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

 

[Buy1Sell2]

what are you talking about? all government positions are included.

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says: “No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

So the authors of the 14th Amendment saw fit to mention Senators and Representatives, but not to list the President specifically? No.---The Amendment does not include the President whatsoever.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

what are you talking about? all government positions are included.

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says: “No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

Just so the reader is aware------The President is not an office holder, rather he is a branch of government by himself.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

what are you talking about? all government positions are included.

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says: “No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

In addition, Senators, Representatives and officers of the United States take an oath to support The Constitution, whereas the President does not.

 

[El OchoCinco]

I am surprised how many are willing to accept this simply because it is dump.... trump never was convicted in a civil or criminal trial or literally stormed the capitol...so a state SC cannot convict him of a federal crime without a trial and strip away voting rights...

beat him in the election or convict him of something but the SC is not going to bail out Biden or Nikki

 

[mervyn]

Just so the reader is aware------The President is not an office holder, rather he is a branch of government by himself.

The presidency is. A president is a person, whom is the highest officer of this branch, an office holder.

 

[mervyn]

I am surprised how many are willing to accept this simply because it is dump.... trump never was convicted in a civil or criminal trial or literally stormed the capitol...so a state SC cannot convict him of a federal crime without a trial and strip away voting rights...

beat him in the election or convict him of something but the SC is not going to bail out Biden or Nikki

Trump is dump enough to sabotage his own path, shall he not engaged that day.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

The presidency is. A president is a person, whom is the highest officer of this branch, an office holder.

No. He is the executive branch all by himself. There is no one but him in the executive branch. By the way, here is the Presidential oath---
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

---Note how he will execute the office. He is not an office holder. Furthermore, he agrees to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution whereas the other folks who The 14th Amendment refers to, agree to support The Constitution.---
This is one way in which the authors make certain that people will not confuse the amendment as referring to the President.

 

[El OchoCinco]

The presidency is. A president is a person, whom is the highest officer of this branch, an office holder.

There is a good argument that officer of the U.S. is not referring to Presidents. Words and usage matter in this discussion so we will see. An officer of the US has specialized meaning...


An officer of the United States is a functionary of the executive or judicial branches of the federal government of the United States to whom is delegated some part of the country's sovereign power. The term officer of the United States is not a title, but a term of classification for a certain type of official.

Under the Appointments Clause of the Constitution, the principal officers of the U.S., such as federal judges, ambassadors, and "public Ministers" (Cabinet members) are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, but Congress may vest the appointment of inferior officers to the president, courts, or federal department heads. Civilian officers of the U.S. are entitled to preface their names with the honorific style "the Honorable" for life, but this rarely occurs. Officers of the U.S. should not be confused with employees of the U.S.; the latter are more numerous and lack the special legal authority of the former.