Trump Gives Green Light To Keystone, Dakota Access Pipelines

comagnum said:
That last VANZANDT post was over the top by glorifying the darkest & deepest wounds in our country's history- talk about racism!

"Those interment camps in CA were like Trump Tower in comparison"

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I can't let this one slide by.

It is estimated that in total over ten million innocents were murdered, including 6 million Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians, Indonesians, and Filipinos. Rape, horrendous torture, slave labor, starvation, cannibalization, ...one of history's most brutal regimes. The Nanking Massacre alone killed upwards of 300,000 women, children, and unarmed combatants. This was just the tip of the iceburg. What they did to our POW's is by far the worst we have ever endured on the field of battle. 1.1% of POW's held by the Axis powers died in captivity....68% of those held by the Japanese died in captivity.

The verdict is out with most historians if interment camps did in fact perhaps save us from domestic espionage and perhaps even acts of terrorism and sabotage on our aircraft factories. No one will ever know. But I DON'T think FDR was a racist and how dare you call me one. That's a typical far left snowflake reaction when somebody hears a fact that they don't agree with or are too ignorant to understand.

Here's a link of google pics showing baseball at interment camps.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bas...q9_RAhXJ3YMKHYzOCnEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=767


The following link is one of Japanese atrocities.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jap...nt_RAhXEyoMKHVCRCWAQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=767

Like I said, ... Trump Tower by comparison. Still want to argue?
 
Congress is against you on this!

CIVIL LIBERTIES ACT OF1988

Enacted by the United States Congress
August 10, 1988

“The Congress recognizes that, as described in the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians, a grave injustice was done to both citizens and permanent residents of Japanese ancestry by the evacuation, relocation, and internment of civilians during World War II. As the Commission documents, these actions were carried out without adequate security reasons and without any acts of espionage or sabotage documented by the Commission, and were motivated largely by racial prejudice, wartime hysteria, and a failure of political leadership.

The excluded individuals of Japanese ancestry suffered enormous damages, both material and intangible, and there were incalculable losses in education and job training, all of which resulted in significant human suffering for which appropriate compensation has not been made.

For these fundamental violations of the basic civil liberties and constitutional rights of these individuals of Japanese ancestry, the Congress apologizes on behalf of the Nation.”

Based on the findings of the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians (CWRIC), the purposes of the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 with respect to persons of Japanese ancestry included the following:

1) To acknowledge the fundamental injustice of the evacuation, relocation and internment of citizens and permanent resident aliens of Japanese ancestry during World War II;

2) To apologize on behalf of the people of the United States for the evacuation, internment, and relocations of such citizens and permanent residing aliens;

3) To provide for a public education fund to finance efforts to inform the public about the internment so as to prevent the recurrence of any similar event;

4) To make restitution to those individuals of Japanese ancestry who were interned;

5) To make more credible and sincere any declaration of concern by the United States over violations of human rights committed by other nations.

http://www.pbs.org/childofcamp/history/civilact.html
 
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Sig said:
I still am baffled by this idea that flooding the market with more oil is going to help oil companies who are currently hurting because of the low price of oil due to the current oil oversupply? Can someone explain that to me again?
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I am not talking short-term, but if for example, Clinton won the election than we would've seen a drastic shift to solar energy, now, imo, most of solar companies are doomed. Meanwhile, oil and gas companies will have all they need.
 
Michael J. Fletcher said:
I am not talking short-term, but if for example, Clinton won the election than we would've seen a drastic shift to solar energy, now, imo, most of solar companies are doomed. Meanwhile, oil and gas companies will have all they need.
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Michael... just fwiw... I bet my arse on Solar when Obama won... that one didn't work out too well.
 
Michael J. Fletcher said:
I am not talking short-term, but if for example, Clinton won the election than we would've seen a drastic shift to solar energy, now, imo, most of solar companies are doomed. Meanwhile, oil and gas companies will have all they need.
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Actually solar displaces mostly coal and is bullish for natural gas since nat gas peakers are needed to provide for intermittency. Only 1% of the electricity in the U.S. is generated using petroleum (https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3).
 
vanzandt said:
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Michael... just fwiw... I bet my arse on Solar when Obama won... that one didn't work out too well.
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It wasn't a great idea, and perhaps solar energy during the next 4-8 years won't be very profitable, but it would have a great future, but not now...
 
Michael J. Fletcher said:
It wasn't a great idea, and perhaps solar energy during the next 4-8 years won't be very profitable, but it would have a great future, but not now...
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Actually if zandy lost money on solar by investing early in the Obama administration it was because it was too successful. The cost of solar fell far faster than anticipated, so all the companies that were sinking money into R&D for things like thin-film ended up going out of business as the drop in the price of plain old silicon panels eclipsed them. Solar is a hard place to make money as an investor, because unlike oil the majority of the financial benefits accrue to the end user/buyer. The rest of the value chain is almost purely commoditized.
 
Sig said:
Actually if zandy lost money on solar by investing early in the Obama administration it was because it was too successful. The cost of solar fell far faster than anticipated, so all the companies that were sinking money into R&D for things like thin-film ended up going out of business as the drop in the price of plain old silicon panels eclipsed them. Solar is a hard place to make money as an investor, because unlike oil the majority of the financial benefits accrue to the end user/buyer. The rest of the value chain is almost purely commoditized.
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Good ole Evergreen Solar, I think I bought it in 2008 at somewhere around $14....as I remember, I was up for awhile... and then it crashed. I actually still have a bunch in an IRA. It's worth like $0.11. And when I say it crashed, it crashed FAST. I can't find a chart.... but it was vertical in the wrong direction.
 
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