Some have said it already, I'm starting to believe it: Drumpf doesn't actually want to win the presidency, he wants to be seen as presidential material without taking on the job.
Trump For President?
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''It'll never happen.'' said Trump of the 35% tariffs.
Trump Communications Director turns on Trump and tells all.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector
I just don't trust the guy.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector
I just don't trust the guy.
And I am frightened.
Donald Trump’s Ratings Are Historically Awful
Can he turn things around?
03/31/2016 06:19 pm ET
Ariel Edwards-Levy
"Give Donald Trump credit: his candidacy may be unifying the country over dislike for him.
"At this point, it might be easier to run down the list of demographic blocs Trump hasn’t alienated. He’s disliked by Democrats and independents, by young voters, and by minorities, not to mention even the female voters in his own party.
"If he wins the GOP nomination, Trump wouldn’t be the first nominee to enter a general election with negative ratings. He would, however, be the least popular major party nominee in modern times. The only recent candidate with comparably low ratings is former KKK leader David Duke, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP nomination in 1992.
“In terms of any domestic personality that we have measured, we’ve never seen an individual with a higher negative,” Democratic pollster Peter Hart told The Washington Post, calling Trump’s image “exceptionally rancid.”
"The American public’s view of Trump, which improved briefly after he entered the race, seems to be worsening. HuffPost Pollster, which averages all publicly available polling, currently gives him a 63 percent unfavorable rating, up from 56 percent in January.
"His decline has been especially steep among women, who have soured on him dramatically since the beginning of the year.
"Conventional wisdom holds that there’s little room for a well-known, disliked candidate to improve. But Trump has defied conventional wisdom before.
"When he first announced his candidacy last June, Trump’s image among Republicans was also inauspiciously, and historically, bad. An analysis from FiveThirtyEight, which declared that “Trump is the first candidate in modern presidential primary history to begin the campaign with a majority of his own party disliking him,” put Trump’s unfavorable rating among the GOP at about 57 percent — close to his current numbers among the populace as a whole today.
"Once it became clear, however, that Trump was intending a serious candidacy, his favorability among Republicans rose quickly and dramatically into positive territory. Although he remains considerably more divisive within his party than past front-runners, his ratings among the GOP have since remained generally stable.
"And if Trump is chosen as the nominee, he may well see another boost as recalcitrant GOP voters ultimately decide to rally around him, giving him a version of the post-convention bounce candidates traditionally receive.
“Should Trump be the nominee, a lot of Republicans who have a hard time believing they would actually vote for him ... they may turn,” GOP pollster Neil Newhouse told Politico.
"It’s also not out of the range of possibility that Trump could improve his image among voters outside his party, pivoting away from his most extreme proposals to focus on a more broadly appealing message around economic populism.
"As The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker and Robert Costa wrote Thursday:
"[Trump and his advisers] say he can reverse his favorability ratings over time by framing the fall contest around issues on which they believe Trump’s positions resonate powerfully across traditional demographics: the economy, trade and national security.
"Since Trump is not tethered to any particular ideology, his test may be convincing voters that he is not a hostile force and is fit to be president, rather than persuading them to buy into a sweeping conservative ideological project.
"But for Trump to turn around his historically low ratings at this point would require a historically sized shift. One of the biggest general election improvements in modern history, according to Gallup’s Andrew Dugan, belonged to Bill Clinton. During the 1992 election, Clinton managed to swing a staggering 18-point change in his net favorability rating in 1992, going from a -8 in July to +10 before his election.
"A similar change would still leave Trump at a remarkably bad net -13.
"That’s likely a relief to Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, whose campaign otherwise might be facing more painful questions about her own less-than-glowing ratings. Clinton’s net favorability, which is at its lowest point since 2009, currently stands at -14, making her, if not as abhorred as Trump, still widely disliked.
"While Trump is the most extreme example, he has company: in a shift from past elections, nearly the entire presidential field this cycle has been notably unpopular.
“I think everyone is getting painted with [a negative] brush because the political discourse is so unsatisfactory,” Republican pollster David Winston told NPR last year. “That’s the challenge to the candidates on both sides — how do they turn this discourse into something that is actually meaningful for the electorate.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._56fd889ee4b0a06d58054e44?utm_hp_ref=politics
Can he turn things around?
03/31/2016 06:19 pm ET
Ariel Edwards-Levy
"Give Donald Trump credit: his candidacy may be unifying the country over dislike for him.
"At this point, it might be easier to run down the list of demographic blocs Trump hasn’t alienated. He’s disliked by Democrats and independents, by young voters, and by minorities, not to mention even the female voters in his own party.
"If he wins the GOP nomination, Trump wouldn’t be the first nominee to enter a general election with negative ratings. He would, however, be the least popular major party nominee in modern times. The only recent candidate with comparably low ratings is former KKK leader David Duke, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP nomination in 1992.
“In terms of any domestic personality that we have measured, we’ve never seen an individual with a higher negative,” Democratic pollster Peter Hart told The Washington Post, calling Trump’s image “exceptionally rancid.”
"The American public’s view of Trump, which improved briefly after he entered the race, seems to be worsening. HuffPost Pollster, which averages all publicly available polling, currently gives him a 63 percent unfavorable rating, up from 56 percent in January.
"His decline has been especially steep among women, who have soured on him dramatically since the beginning of the year.
"Conventional wisdom holds that there’s little room for a well-known, disliked candidate to improve. But Trump has defied conventional wisdom before.
"When he first announced his candidacy last June, Trump’s image among Republicans was also inauspiciously, and historically, bad. An analysis from FiveThirtyEight, which declared that “Trump is the first candidate in modern presidential primary history to begin the campaign with a majority of his own party disliking him,” put Trump’s unfavorable rating among the GOP at about 57 percent — close to his current numbers among the populace as a whole today.
"Once it became clear, however, that Trump was intending a serious candidacy, his favorability among Republicans rose quickly and dramatically into positive territory. Although he remains considerably more divisive within his party than past front-runners, his ratings among the GOP have since remained generally stable.
"And if Trump is chosen as the nominee, he may well see another boost as recalcitrant GOP voters ultimately decide to rally around him, giving him a version of the post-convention bounce candidates traditionally receive.
“Should Trump be the nominee, a lot of Republicans who have a hard time believing they would actually vote for him ... they may turn,” GOP pollster Neil Newhouse told Politico.
"It’s also not out of the range of possibility that Trump could improve his image among voters outside his party, pivoting away from his most extreme proposals to focus on a more broadly appealing message around economic populism.
"As The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker and Robert Costa wrote Thursday:
"[Trump and his advisers] say he can reverse his favorability ratings over time by framing the fall contest around issues on which they believe Trump’s positions resonate powerfully across traditional demographics: the economy, trade and national security.
"Since Trump is not tethered to any particular ideology, his test may be convincing voters that he is not a hostile force and is fit to be president, rather than persuading them to buy into a sweeping conservative ideological project.
"But for Trump to turn around his historically low ratings at this point would require a historically sized shift. One of the biggest general election improvements in modern history, according to Gallup’s Andrew Dugan, belonged to Bill Clinton. During the 1992 election, Clinton managed to swing a staggering 18-point change in his net favorability rating in 1992, going from a -8 in July to +10 before his election.
"A similar change would still leave Trump at a remarkably bad net -13.
"That’s likely a relief to Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, whose campaign otherwise might be facing more painful questions about her own less-than-glowing ratings. Clinton’s net favorability, which is at its lowest point since 2009, currently stands at -14, making her, if not as abhorred as Trump, still widely disliked.
"While Trump is the most extreme example, he has company: in a shift from past elections, nearly the entire presidential field this cycle has been notably unpopular.
“I think everyone is getting painted with [a negative] brush because the political discourse is so unsatisfactory,” Republican pollster David Winston told NPR last year. “That’s the challenge to the candidates on both sides — how do they turn this discourse into something that is actually meaningful for the electorate.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._56fd889ee4b0a06d58054e44?utm_hp_ref=politics
Trump started losing this week.
Not to any candidate but losing the war with the media. It is coming from every direction, right and left and it is difficult to see how he can win with the character assassination being carried out not only by leftist media outlets but from those claiming to be conservative.
It looks unassailable and seeds of doubt began to creep in for me this morning.
You cannot win having to fight the entire media complex that is trusted to inform the public impartially but has, over the last few decades, become some kind of nightmarish politicized and polarized propaganda apparatus.
Hoping for Trump but I'm going to be prepared for a Hillary Clinton shit show just in case.
Not to any candidate but losing the war with the media. It is coming from every direction, right and left and it is difficult to see how he can win with the character assassination being carried out not only by leftist media outlets but from those claiming to be conservative.
It looks unassailable and seeds of doubt began to creep in for me this morning.
You cannot win having to fight the entire media complex that is trusted to inform the public impartially but has, over the last few decades, become some kind of nightmarish politicized and polarized propaganda apparatus.
Hoping for Trump but I'm going to be prepared for a Hillary Clinton shit show just in case.
Character?
Yeah i came to exactly the same conclusion yesterday, I wonder how many people yesterday thought the same, just about everyone i talked to said the same thing, no one can overcome the amount of negative press he is getting now, Captain Obvious said it best, for a guy whose supposedly a salesman, he committed one of the worst cardinal sins of sales, he talked himself out of a sale that he already had cause he couldnt bite his tongue. The same brashness that some people liked about him wound up being his undoing.
Starting yesterday i basically resigned myself to the fact Hillary will be the next president, so now all we can hope for with Trump is that he takes the entire GOP establishment down with him.
Starting yesterday i basically resigned myself to the fact Hillary will be the next president, so now all we can hope for with Trump is that he takes the entire GOP establishment down with him.
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The RNC is busily trying to prepare voters for dumping Trump. Part of it is to get their media allies to dump on him nonstop.
They are actually mulling the idea of bringing Jeb! back. Their idea is if they can produce an innocuous candidate, the voters will get over their Trump infatuation and fall into line. It shows you how crucial amnesty and open borders are to them that they will hand the White House over to Hillary to get them.
They are actually mulling the idea of bringing Jeb! back. Their idea is if they can produce an innocuous candidate, the voters will get over their Trump infatuation and fall into line. It shows you how crucial amnesty and open borders are to them that they will hand the White House over to Hillary to get them.
