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Very well said.
Trump expects exoneration soon
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Very well said.
How perceptive you are becoming. Perhaps you will soon be able to smell Trump supporters when you are at Walmart, the way unbiased Mueller investigators can.
This is a very, very minor problem compared to the critical problem of the decline of the lower middle class, unaffordable medical care, deterioration of the public school systems, and stagnate wages in the face of years of inflation and widening wealth disparity. Trump's base told Trump that immigration was a major problem. Those that lost their jobs to off shoring and automation blamed immigrant labor. Completely ignoring reality and the facts. Illegal immigration had slowed to a crawl long before the Republican primary. Trump took this and ran with it. Immigrants became rapists and murderers, and you guys ate it up! What kind of fraud is this guy you've thrown your lot in with -- a demagogue that finds out where your fears and insecurities lie and then stokes then. A guy that lies to you every chance he gets. I'd give this some serious thought if I were you.
Yes this is common thought among morons.
Have fun with your Faux News echo chamber.
Idiots.
I hate to give piehole credit for anything given his AGW stance, but, what he said above.
Deportations are down across the board under Trump.
https://www.axios.com/trump-had-fewer-deportations-than-obamas-first-year-2517865986.html
https://www.axios.com/trump-had-fewer-deportations-than-obamas-first-year-2517865986.html
This is in line with what I have been reading. Apparently, without much fanfare, the Obama admin greatly stepped up deportations. Every thing was under control already before Trump took office. But listen to that big fate orange baboon
take credit now for immigration being way down; Just like he took credit for the market going up. He never mentioned that it has been going up since March 2009. Entirely under Obama's watch!
take credit now for immigration being way down; Just like he took credit for the market going up. He never mentioned that it has been going up since March 2009. Entirely under Obama's watch!
Wrong again.
High deportation figures are misleading
https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati.../la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html
Obama Administration Inflating Deportation Numbers
Illegal immigrants being deported from Tucson, Ariz.
by Andrew StilesFebruary 10, 2014 6:00 PM
@AndrewStilesNRO
Misleading classifications make it look like traditional deportations are up. They’re not.
Proponents of comprehensive immigration reform aren’t buying the Republican argument that President Obama simply can’t be trusted to secure the border or enforce new immigration laws.
The Washington Post editorial board called this suggestion “transparently false,” citing the “record” number of deportations under the Obama administration. Meanwhile, liberal activists have urged the president to halt all deportations of illegal immigrants via executive action.
But there is ample evidence to suggest the administration’s deportation record is severely inflated, or at the very least misrepresented.
Consider the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) report on year-end removal numbers for fiscal year 2013. ICE reported a total of 368,644 removals for the year (down considerably from the 409,949 removals reported the previous year).
The ICE report noted that of those 368,644 removals, 235,093 (or nearly two-thirds) were carried out on individuals “apprehended while, or shortly after, attempting to illegally enter the United States.” This shows that while the Obama administration continues to deport illegal immigrants in large numbers, most of these removals do not constitute a “deportation” in the conventional sense.
Activists fighting to end deportations argue that, while the people being deported are here illegally, they’ve been living in the country for some time, often with relatives or children of their own — hence the charge that deportations “break up families.” Cases like these exist, but as the ICE data show, they are the minority. For the most part, the Obama administration is “deporting” people it catches in the act of entering the country illegally.
In fact, the Department of Homeland Security’s own guidelines distinguish between “removals” and “returns.” According to DHS, a removal is defined as “the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal.”
Returns, meanwhile, are defined as “the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.” The primary difference between the two categories is that removals are processed by ICE, while returns are not.
In 2012, Representative Lamar Smith (R., Texas), then chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, discovered that the Obama administration was counting a certain number of “returns” as “removals.” Immigrants apprehended at the border are often times referred to ICE and subsequently processed as a removal. This has the effect of artificially inflated the number of removals, or deportations, by at least 50,000 per year. It is also a reason why what the administration refers to as “border apprehensions” are near historic lows: People are in fact being apprehended at the border, but their cases are grouped as removals in the statistical record.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nati...n-inflating-deportation-numbers-andrew-stiles
He greatly stepped up border crossings which led to more deportations.
The goal is to either remove or prevent illegals from being in this country ie. reduce the number of illegals in the country by lawful means.
Border crossing are down drastically under Trump.
If you add the numbers prevented from entering to the country together with the numbers removed from the country under Trump - then what does the data look like compared to Obama??
There was a massive number number of deportations under Obama because he had a massive number of border crossings. That ain't how you want to get your deportation numbers up.
And yes I know that in the last years of Obama the border crossing started to go down due to economic conditions in this country but that decline is not even remotely comparable to the drastic decline seen under Trump. That is hardly a coincidence or an extension of Obama's actions.
But if you are making the argument that Trump needs to be getting his deportation numbers up and deporting more illegals, then that's fine. I can listen to that. Somehow I don't think that is what you are arguing though.
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