Trump Disappointments Starting To Mount Up
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You're right, for all their many faults the left stays united and true to the cause. The right, for all their grandiose ideas will look for the nearest exit at the first sight of storm clouds. Sign of the times I guess. This snowflake syndrome is spreading.
The issue is that the right is more ethically principled than the left. The left will just lock step follow.
A lying con man reality show host isn't meeting your expectations of being a good president..I'm shocked
He's a purist that will take his ball and go home when everything doesn't go his way. Too many people go that way and nothing gets done. Both the extreme right and left are full of their high minded idealogy. That's not all they're full of.
I think you are possibly misinterpreting what we are saying.
Trump was elected on a very specific set of principles. If he hadn't run on those principles, no one would have paid any attention to him. We admired the way he stood tall and took incredible heat for them.
Now, not even 100 days in, we see ominous signs that we are instead getting a Jeb/Hillary set of policies. We see people who openly mock us and our principles insinuating themselves in his inner circle and pushing out those, like Bannon, who represent what he ran on.
The reckless Syrian attack is merely one example, although it is troubling because Trump himself took such a strong stand against the exact same policy when the neo cons were demanding that Obama add Syria to his list of disasters.
I have little doubt that he did this solely because the apple of his eye, Ivanka, was moved to tears by sad pictures. She and Jared can do no wrong in Trump's eyes. A long line of fired Trump loyalists can attest to that.
You can have your principles, or you can get things done. There are times when you can't have both to the degree that one would like. He also ran on being a deal maker. Deal makers compromise. He was also an open book on how he makes deals. Promise the sky and the moon, ask for everything under the sun, and then when it comes to doing the actual deal you settle for what you can get. I am not at all surprised by his actions and quite frankly am surprised that so many of you are, his once loyal supporters, of which I was not. I'm just a realist, and I'm also willing to give the guy some time and space to let things develop. I also accept that as situations change, people may have to make changes was well. Like you said, it's not even 100 days in. Give the guy some room to work.
On the subject a Syria. There is a clear line that is internationally accepted. No chemical weapons under any circumstances. Someone who uses them, at a minimum, needs a slap in the nose, which is all this was. Isn't anyone going to do anything other than talk smack.
Why are you repeating the lie that Syria used chemical weapons?
Why don't you state the obvious?
Yes, but that's the issue. Is he going to get the things done he was elected to do, or is he going off on a tangent? In this case it is particularly annoying because he was quite adamant in taking a position exactly opposite to the one he is taking now.
A large percentage of his supporters do not want to go down this road of being World Policeman. Been there, done that, and unlike, Sen.'s Dumb and Dumber, ie McCain and Graham, we see the past 15 years of meddling in the middle east as one gigantic disaster.
We are worried because we don't like the way decisions seem to be made. What if Ivanka sees sad pictures of refugees and illegal immigrants and starts crying again?
You thought a guy with a lifelong history of being a narcissist, con man,lair,bankruptcies,sexual harassment allegations,sued over 3,500 times and political flip flopping would keep his word to you?