Trump Deploys U.S. Military To Southern Border

Trump just vocalized what the majority of Amercians are thinking. Will someone please do something about illegal immigration.

We supposedly elected a House and Senate that would do just that.

Trumps just fed up with Congress like everyone else.
The Obama administration greatly stepped up deportation of illegals and tightened borders. Trump hasn't dome anything significant beyond what the Obama administration had already done. What Trump has done is to create scapegoats out of immigrants and paint them as rapists murderers and job thieves. This is classical Demagogue rhetoric. The other day Trump even took credit for a section of border wall being built that was 100% the product of the Obama administration.

If only we could deport Trump, our nightmare could end. I would like to suggest Moscow as an appropriate destination for him.

I don't want to suggest that Obama was a great President, in my opinion he wasn't. Trump is, however, making Obama look like a Great President.
 
Interesting question. I am not an expert on Posse Comitatus, but I fail to see how it would apply to using troops to secure the border. Border security is a core military function.

I think we would have true constitutional crisis, instead of the fake ones the media is always creating, if in fact a court presumed to overrule the president's decision to station troops on the border. This is a clearcut Executive Branch responsibility. Courts have no jurisdiction and any president would be justified, indeed he would be compelled, to ignore such a ruling.

No expert here either, but it's my understanding Posse Comitatus pertains to using the military as a police force.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Hence using them as an extension of Border Security to uphold immigration law would be suspect imo. However posting them on the border to prevent an invasion, with all their technology,... Well I guess if they see something/someone and there's a border agent there with them enjoying a cup of coffee :sneaky:

It's all in how you say it.
 
The troops are not there to enforce immigration law. They are there to prevent unauthorized border crossing. The caravan can always go to an official entry point, wait their turn and present their claims for asylum, etc.
 
No expert here either, but it's my understanding Posse Comitatus pertains to using the military as a police force.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Hence using them as an extension of Border Security to uphold immigration law would be suspect imo. However posting them on the border to prevent an invasion, with all their technology,... Well I guess if they see something/someone and there's a border agent there with them enjoying a cup of coffee :sneaky:

It's all in how you say it.

The media noted that the U.S. Military has been deployed to the Mexican border multiple times in the past so this is not something new historically. The context of why the U.S. Military is being deployed to the border may be different this time.
 
It's all in how you say it.
This is true in more ways than one. Trump is intentionally creating the image of a serious border problem when one no longer exists. Since Obama's administration greatly stepped up deportations the flow of illegals has dwindled to a trickle. Further measures have only political value. From a practical standpoint they are cost ineffective. Trump has to carry on with his subterfuge however. He made illegal immigration the center piece of his campaign. But, as we have all learned since his election, his knowledge of immigration law, U.S. law in general, the Constitution, Government, and World Affairs is minimal, while his lies and made on the fly facts are endless.

You guys correctly noted posse commitatus would seemingly bar Trump, in the absence of a crisis, from legally ordering regular military troops to protect the border, augmenting and overlapping the duties of regular border patrol personnel . Mattis is against it. Mattis knows the law. It is doubtful Trump discussed this questionable deployment before blurting it out. If he ignores good advice, and orders Mattis to deploy troops along the border, no doubt troops will be deployed. There would be zero chance that this present Congress would step in and stop it.

We have deployed military troops domestically before, but it was always under dire circumstances that exceptions were made. For example, during the civil rights movement, when Bobby Kennedy ordered Ross Barnett to admit James Meredith to Ole Miss, U.S. Marshals along with thousands of Federalized National Guard troops, making them U.S. troops, were deployed to the Ole Miss Campus and surroundings.

Exceptions to posse comitatus are few and far between. Trumps desire to play to his clueless base clearly does not satisfy the accepted criterion needed to justify an exception. And certainly the trickle of illegals still surviving the crossing of the U.S. border with Mexico can not be truthfully described as an invasion.
 
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