I think we all agree that Milton Friedman conservative economics will prevail. And that's what we want. But, the goal has changed. It is no longer an America goal to buy the most stuff at the cheapest price to make our life better. For one thing, we don't need more stuff and we have plenty of money. What seems to be lacking in America is thriving communities. Poor people can now check their iphone to see if they got a text msg about that job interview while they are shopping at walmart. We haven't abandoned our belief that capitalism is the best path to prosperity for all worldwide, we've just expanded our view of the cost to include displaced workers. It's not a zero sum game. One new American job doesn't mean one less Chinese job, but if a job is going to be created, stand in line, Americans go first and the rest of the world can have the leftovers. In short, we as a people need a new American job more than we need a new Chinese iphone. That's all, and nobody has to write a new law to once again try to violate capitalism. We just needed a leader who is pro American business. Someone who will make Carrier an offer they can't refuse.
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So you want an isolated island type nation. Do you think they'd double or triple their wages and do the same to the produce? Who'd buy it, production would immediately move abroad.
Basic economics, do I have to explain more?
Funny how you right wing Americans are talking the same line as European leftist - EU is full of price controls and tariffs on things like garlic - as a result Chinese and Spanish garlic costs the same and it's the consumers who suffer.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/ge...w-leading-to-crops-rotting-in-farmers-fields/
Also in Colorado:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/05/colorado-farmers-hire-locals-f
Shows you know nothing. Vast majority are harvested by hand and will be for the foreseeable future. How will automating harvester help the American worker? American workers are expendable too, clearly.
iPhone is already having trouble at $600, it will be killed at $840. Interesting how you're so in love with the idea of higher prices for everything. Guess you must be making a lot if you don't care about your costs going up 40%.
Tomatoes haven't been planted or harvested by Americans for a long time. The valley use to be full of them. Now tomatoes, all staked by hand as far as the eye can see, sea of red in Mexico. Peaches and pecans in Georgia are increasingly being harvested with new fangled machines. The last white American farm workers were the high school kids in Iowa who walked the beans in the summer when school was out. Now Monsanto takes care of all that. Automation does nothing to hurt American farm workers because there are none. Where the hell are you from anyway? You sure don't know much about America or Americans.
But I'll ignore your insults and try to explain it in language even a backwards capitalist can understand. We ARE making a lot of money and we don't need new stuff that costs less money and more jobs. We have seen that the final price is not the true price. We will pay the true price if it puts America back on top so we don't have to deal with European preservationists who only want to keep things the way they were. We instead want to make America Great Again! See the difference commie?
First -- here is some more information on crops that are not harvested in the U.S. and the reasons they are left rotting in the field. Usually crops are left to rot because the price the farmer will get for them is so low that they are not worth harvesting. I will also note that the U.S. government pays farmers to let crops not be harvested as a form of price control when there is an overabundance.
https://www.nrdc.org/experts/dana-g...uch-fresh-produce-we-grow-never-makes-it-farm
The U.S. farm system is among the most productive and automated in the world. In fact is envied by other countries who strive to imitate it.
Secondly -- the non-contract iPhones at $600 or more are selling very well in the U.S. Just go read the announcements from T-Mobile and others who are hitting sales records on non-contract iPhones. Your assertion that no iPhone models will sell at $840 is already debunked -- many of the higher end models with upgraded memory, etc. are already selling near this price.
In actuality the end of subsidized phones in the cell industry will lead to increased iPhone sales at higher prices -- very positive for Apple in the long run.
Why Verizon killing subsidized phones is good for Apple
http://www.cultofmac.com/384691/why-verizon-killing-subsidized-phones-is-good-for-apple/
And it's not just automation. American farmers are leading the way in new environmentally friendly farming practices both in livestock and crops. The new practices are really just the old practices our fore fathers used. Good for the land, avoids bad publicity, and of course more economical in the long run. Smaller farmers (1200 acres or less in America) often have day jobs or another source of income and the family farm is preserved for the beautiful lifestyle it provides for the kids and family. The larger farms were all incorporated years ago and it is still a big gambling business. Almost nothing grown in the midwest bread basket is for human consumption unless you call cattle feed and corn syrup food. Ethanol anybody? No thanks, I don't even like to feed that to my car. Cotton subsidies are the most interesting because it is quite clear Texas cotton can't survive on the world market if not subsidized. Meanwhile the poor cotton farmer in Africa is left with nothing year after year getting his seeds and manure on credit and owing it all to the bank at harvest. What to do?