I don't think Trump himself believes he can pull this off, but that doesn't matter. Listen to what he says before or right after he goes on some PC incorrect rant. He says, and he always says it, "I DON'T CARE". The crowd cheers, and they don't care either. This attitude is the result of many years of frustration with our PC, inept, corrupt, and completely out of touch government and media mouthpieces that work for them. What Trump and his crowd are saying, and they're saying it in no uncertain terms, go fuck yourself. We don't give a shit that you're offended, don't care what you like, we're doing as we please. Can he win with this? Time will tell, but I'll guess this. If he falls in the polls next spring, loses a couple of primaries, he will NOT go quietly into the night, and neither will his followers. It's a problem for the GOP and they know it. More importantly, so does Trump.
Trump Adopts AAA Immigration Policy: No More Muslims
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The shocking truth about Muslims in America
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html
Donald Trump sparked a firestorm of criticism from liberals, conservatives and those in between when he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.
But while such a ban is unlikely to be implemented in a country founded by immigrants, the cheers that followed his announcement at the South Carolina rally are telling.
"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them," supporter Charlie Marzka, 75, told CNN. "The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is."
Indeed, the truth about Muslims in America is shocking -- but not in the way Trump and his supporters might think.
A look at polls and studies conducted in the last few years show that Muslims have been crucial in helping law enforcement find terror suspects in the United States. Many have served in the military protecting the country against terrorists. And in many ways, they're a lot like other everyday Americans.
Here's the reality of Muslims in America -- and how it smashes stereotypes:
(More at above url)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html
- American Muslims have alerted law enforcement to more terror suspects than U.S. intelligence has.
- Muslims are the most racially diverse religious group in the country.
Donald Trump sparked a firestorm of criticism from liberals, conservatives and those in between when he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.
But while such a ban is unlikely to be implemented in a country founded by immigrants, the cheers that followed his announcement at the South Carolina rally are telling.
"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them," supporter Charlie Marzka, 75, told CNN. "The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is."
Indeed, the truth about Muslims in America is shocking -- but not in the way Trump and his supporters might think.
A look at polls and studies conducted in the last few years show that Muslims have been crucial in helping law enforcement find terror suspects in the United States. Many have served in the military protecting the country against terrorists. And in many ways, they're a lot like other everyday Americans.
Here's the reality of Muslims in America -- and how it smashes stereotypes:
(More at above url)
16% of French Citizens Support ISIS, Poll Finds (hint: it's not the 10th generation pastry chef on corner who support ISIS)
http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795
https://www.rt.com/news/181076-isis-islam-militans-france/
9% of British Citizens Support ISIS
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-leader-isis-supporting-brits-disenfranchised-6018357
37% of Syrian Refugees OPPOSE NATO Coalition Strikes Against ISIS (page#3)
http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/Get/40ebdf12-8960-4d18-8088-7c8a077e522e
13% of Syrian Refugees have Positive View of ISIS (page#19)
http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/Get/40ebdf12-8960-4d18-8088-7c8a077e522e
8% of American Muslims believe suicide bombing of Civilian Targets can be justified to Defend Islam (PEW Research page#53)
https://web.archive.org/web/2015042...s/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
16% of Muslims living in France, UK, and Spain believe suicide bombing of Civilian Targets can be justified to Defend Islam (PEW Research page#53)
https://web.archive.org/web/2015042...s/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
25% of British Muslims have sympathy for motives behind Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris, new survey reveals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-Paris-new-survey-reveals.html#ixzz3tjjUiVZ2
goes on and on...
That's the question. Trump wants to do everything to keep them out. Syrian refugees who get in before the inauguration, get booted out if Trump gets elected.
As for American Muslim citizens inside the country, sounds like Trump is leaning towards targeted surveillance/enforcement, shutting down radical Mosques and profiling. None of that is legal or Constitutional except for shutting down Mosques. OTOH, NSA dragnet surveillance has gone unabated since 9/11. They spy on everything. Bush started it and Obama continued it. Trump is just being open about it.... This is what I really don't like about Trump. But.
Sure, "we're a nation of immigrants"... especially 300-400 years ago.... when America was (1) vast and (2) sparsely populated. We needed people here populate the land. Big difference was that they came to "make their own way in the world", not to suck-tit on the ones already here.
Just as my grandfather told me many times, "The world doesn't owe you a living". It's also true that "America doesn't owe the rest of the world a living"... especially when they come here to not only parasitically live off of us, but to change America to their way of thinking... and BTW, kill all of us who don't come around to their way.
Trump gets my vote for his notion to ban/control Muslim immigration! (Hispanic immigration across the southern border as well.)
Any candidate who does not share Trump's views on immigration is not fit to be POTUS!!
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Hear hear. Well said.
Back then it was sink or swim. Can't have open borders in a welfare state. They're incompatible. Not to mention during an asymmetric terror war. Makes zero sense. 5 Million illegal immigrants estimated to have snuck in since 911. Nobody knows who the fuck they are or where they come from. Border Patrol have said off record for years, Middle Eastern and Chinese foreign nationals are a big part of apprehensions. Liberal media refuses to report it. POTUS (Bush/Obama) refuse to acknowledge it.
Trump will put the squeeze on all this shit. Seems he's going to do it extra-judicially. But since 911, NSA has operated completely outside of the law. So not much will change in that regard. Except shit might actually get cleaned up and the net situation improve.
Liberals are literally in conniption fits over this LOL
But honestly, I've never seen this kinda of Balls from a POTUS candidate. This is totally outside of PC pap crap I've been fed all my life! It's like my eyes have been opened for the first time.
The carping from republicans that we can't possibly do this, what about x, y or z, illustrates the problem. We have a defeatist attitude and have been so cowed by PC and multiculturalist nonsense, that people literally are aghast when a guy shows us what leadership looks like. The difference between Trump and obama is staggering. One guy wimpers on TV that we mustn't be unkind to muslims, the other says keep them out.
Meanwhile, Trump has again sucked every last particle of oxygen out of the room. Every political conversation from now until the election or he drops out will be about him.
Meanwhile, Trump has again sucked every last particle of oxygen out of the room. Every political conversation from now until the election or he drops out will be about him.
You were right man. I didn't want to listen or hear it, but you were right about the Muslim problem.
This is fucked. We're about to see some serious shit go down. America can nip this in the bud quick, it seems. But Europe.....
Pundits now saying if one or two high profile terror attacks happen between now and the election, Trump skates in.
Look at France. Le Pen and Niece just crushed regional elections. French finding their balls. Anyway, the pendulum is squarely swinging back now and heads will roll..
The establishment republicans now must face their worst nightmare. Trump's call to ban muslim immigration will be very popular with the republican base. You know, the people who elect these douchebags who then are embarrassed by our attitudes. If they try to shout him down or disown him, they can kiss a lot of those supporters goodby, maybe for a long time. The most likely result would be Trump or some other figure forming an anti-immigration party that siphons off a lot of formerly republican voters.
But agreeing with Trump is unthinkable for them. It could jeopardize those Saudi deals, the Kuwait contracts, all those Dubai projects, etc. Don't kid yourself , the Arabs have bought themselves tremendous influence, using the money they stole from us via OPEC.
But agreeing with Trump is unthinkable for them. It could jeopardize those Saudi deals, the Kuwait contracts, all those Dubai projects, etc. Don't kid yourself , the Arabs have bought themselves tremendous influence, using the money they stole from us via OPEC.
Same is true about securing the southern border... "can't do it", politicos say. BULLSHIT! Other countries have secure borders if they want them. We just need the political will.