Truckers to arrest Constitution breakers and shut down the economy

Quote from stevegee58:

One of the early ideas floated by TJ was that "citizens" would be restricted to the landowner class, not entitled by mere birth.
In that light his high words about citizens and firearms have a different meaning.
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...George Washington, John Adams and George Mason?
Did they also theoretically share the same view?

Were all the continental army and militia soldiers land owners?


"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee



"Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the constitution by claiming it's not an individual right or that it's too much of a safety hazard don’t see the danger of the big picture. They're courting disaster by encouraging others to use this same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like."
- Alan Dershowitz
 
Quote from stevegee58:

One of the early ideas floated by TJ was that "citizens" would be restricted to the landowner class, not entitled by mere birth.
In that light his high words about citizens and firearms have a different meaning.
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no, they don't, because that isn't how the Constitution was written, and one of the Jefferson quotes lucrum posted clearly states "no freeman shall be debarred the use of arms." Also, I suppose in your opinion, that the early generations of Americans, including the very first one, just imagined that it was their birthright to own and carry guns, and the federal and state govts must have imagined it as well cause they didn't do anything about it. In fact there were possibly NO weapon restrictions prior to the Civil War.

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner." - Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 97th Congress, Second Session (February
1982)
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

btw OP, what does this have to do with economics?
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Per the article:

D.C. commuters who wish to be allowed past the convoy must have "T2SDA" – an acronym for the event's original name, "Truckers to Shut Down America" – written on their vehicle, he said.

To shut down America implies an economic shutdown. Doesn't it?
 
It is about time someone locked these cronies up for constitutional crimes but we should start with the executive branch who now believes they declare war without congress. Arresting congress will only lead to a bloodbath. You gotta go straight to the white house and do this from the top down.
 
Quote from jrcase:

Per the article:

D.C. commuters who wish to be allowed past the convoy must have "T2SDA" – an acronym for the event's original name, "Truckers to Shut Down America" – written on their vehicle, he said.

To shut down America implies an economic shutdown. Doesn't it?
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Yes. The same type of economic shutdown the working-class people and middle class of this country have had to face for the last half decade. We all will need to experience temporary discomfort and political instability at some point if we're going to turn this country back in the right direction. The political situation is just as bad now as it was in the mid 60s.

Shut the damn thing down and arrest the bastards that have been taking us to illegal wars and spending trillions of dollars recklessly. One day Al Qaeda is the biggest threat to mankind and the next we're funded and sponsoring them to overthrow governments - that is the real economic shutdown; not truckers shutting down a highway,
 
Us ol' guys were just talking about this at breakfast this morning... Why only the bikers and truckers are standing up for the foundational concepts of the country.

We came to the conclusion that starting around 1980 every male in an office job has had his frontal lobe "plolitically corrected" and his personality neutered and beta ized. Then starting around 1997 or so most of the factory jobs went PC also.

Once PC you never state your true beliefs. Everything is "filtered" so we can all get along, and it is left to "someone else" to fix things... because the committees only recommend anymore, and "someone else" decides.

So the last bastion of truth, liberty and the American way is also our last bastion of the alpha male: bikers, truckers, likely ranchers and outdoorsmen.

They have almost enslaved us...
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

Leaving out the reference to a militia, of course. :)
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Just as Scalia did. He used the comma to discard everything he didn't like and keep what he did! What a Country!

Next we get to find out if individuals have the First Amendment right to contribute as much as corporations to political campaigns? What a strange Country we are to give Corporations Freedom of Political Expression (via money), while limiting the contributions of individuals!!

And all this time I mistakenly thought the Constitution had to do with the rights of people. Now I find out, according to Scalia, Jefferson screwed up. He was supposed to write: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves, our Posterity, and our Corporations, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

So just as Scalia in effect took "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,..." out of the Constitution, he put "...and our Corporations,..." into the Constitution.

What a Country! What a Court!
 
Quote from EvOTraderV2:

Yes. The same type of economic shutdown the working-class people and middle class of this country have had to face for the last half decade. We all will need to experience temporary discomfort and political instability at some point if we're going to turn this country back in the right direction. The political situation is just as bad now as it was in the mid 60s.

Shut the damn thing down and arrest the bastards that have been taking us to illegal wars and spending trillions of dollars recklessly. One day Al Qaeda is the biggest threat to mankind and the next we're funded and sponsoring them to overthrow governments - that is the real economic shutdown; not truckers shutting down a highway,
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Funny you should mention that. We had the same kind of schism between the democrats and the Republicans during the Kennedy Years. The hatred of Kennedy by the Republicans was as strong then as it is now for Obama.

I don't think there is any known treatment for schizophrenia of countries other then time or death.
 
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