Trend Following Super Fund SLAMMED !!

[puretruth]

Quote from marketsurfer:

your forgetting all the money he made for himself and clients over the years....

all his FAITHFUL clients who stayed with him , lost EVERYTHING, only the lucky ones who got out before he blew up , made money.........................................................> a very small minority (who is going to leave you when you make amazing returns year in and out ?) made some money................................IT SU... despite being MM nr.1 for a few years ...you can make 100 % each year during 10 years BUT if you lose everything in year nr. 11 , you made NADA in the end


P.S. Why do I get the impression that you defend this guy ?

 

[ProfLogic]

Quote from marketsurfer:

-- everyone is constantly evolving and that was one step along the way.....

best,

surf

Too bad you don't apply this rationale to other people's methods. What is that called?

 

[EPrado]

Quote from marketsurfer:

your forgetting all the money he made for himself and clients over the years....

Yeah but those who stuck with him without taking money out lost everything. What good does it do if after 5 good yrs of returns he loses everything in the 6th ?

The clients are left with a pile of dust.

 

[ProfLogic]

Quote from EPrado:

Yeah but those who stuck with him without taking money out lost everything. What good does it do if after 5 good yrs of returns he loses everything in the 6th ?

The clients are left with a pile of dust.

Game . . . Set . . . Match

 

[EPrado]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Your post is so general that it is meaningless.

As for your VN, he just floored his vehicle with no regard for the turns. Of course he'll make good time during the straightaway. And then he crashes and burns at the turns. Meanwhile, being the man of science that you are, you only regard his performance during the straightaways and not the entire run.

Surf loves to cherry pick. 2 years ago when Trend Followers were goin through a rough patch, he wouldn't shut up. Then last year when they had gigantic years (while the rest of Wall Street got crushed) he didn't say a peep and hid.

in the end all of VN's clients are left with zilch, while the trend followers he rips keep goin forwards.

 

[puretruth]

Quote from EPrado:

Yeah but those who stuck with him without taking money out lost everything. What good does it do if after 5 good yrs of returns he loses everything in the 6th ?

The clients are left with a pile of dust.

This is exactly what I said a few posts back :


all his FAITHFUL clients who stayed with him , lost EVERYTHING, only the lucky ones who got out before he blew up , made money.........................................................> a very small minority (who is going to leave you when you make amazing returns year in and out ?) made some money................................IT SU... despite being MM nr.1 for a few years ...you can make 100 % each year during 10 years BUT if you lose everything in year nr. 11 , you made NADA in the end



And then he slams a trend following fund that only performed bad this year but he doesn't talk about all the previous good years without a blow up .....you gotta wonder this guy's objectivity LOL

 

[EPrado]

Quote from ProfLogic:

Game . . . Set . . . Match

Exactly ProfLogic



Surf just can't grasp what I have been saying on here for months...years. In the end VN is a loser at being a fund manager. That's how he will be remembered.

 

[EPrado]

Quote from puretruth:

This is exactly what I said a few posts back :


all his FAITHFUL clients who stayed with him , lost EVERYTHING, only the lucky ones who got out before he blew up , made money.........................................................> a very small minority (who is going to leave you when you make amazing returns year in and out ?) made some money................................IT SU... despite being MM nr.1 for a few years ...you can make 100 % each year during 10 years BUT if you lose everything in year nr. 11 , you made NADA in the end



And then he slams a trend following fund that only performed bad this year but he doesn't talk about all the previous good years without a blow up .....you gotta wonder this guy's objectivity LOL

Exactly......

One of two things are goin on with Surf:

1) He has repeatdly tried to get interviews with John Henry or some other big TF and was rejected numerous times...ergo the hate.

2) He had a girlfriend who left him for a Trend Follower.


He is so ridiculous on this topic. Or just about any topic regarding trading.

 

[slacker]

Quote from marketsurfer:

take a look at the calls on the surf report since 2002

many are counter the prevailing directional move in a big way.

best,

surf

Why not point to a single profitable month of your 'calls' surf. What was the best month of trading since you have been posting here? Out of 13,000 posts have you had a month that was profitable? If you made a profit you probably would remember it, correct? So, what year and what month? When was the last time you had a profitable month?

 

[The Bishop]

Quote from EPrado:

Yeah but those who stuck with him without taking money out lost everything. What good does it do if after 5 good yrs of returns he loses everything in the 6th ?

The clients are left with a pile of dust.

Did those people pay taxes on those gains they never saw?