Trend Following "SUPER FUND" down

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yeah, TF's had a good year but it was after massive drawdowns the year before. remember if a fund is down 50%, it needs to make 100% just to break even......
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Ok now we're going to settle this once and for all: What big trendfollowing fund with AUM $1bln had a >50% "massive" drawdown in 2007. Actually 2007 was an excellent year for the large majority of the funds I am following, so name the funds with "huge drawdowns"!

Surf, I know you can't and you won't. You will handle my post like all my other previous replies to you: You will ignore it like a child that got caught lying.
 
first, i never said any fund was down 50%. that was an example of how one needs get back to even after a drawdown.

with that said,

been told that JWH holdings have been reduced to 500 million from 2.5 billion 2 years ago.........due to redemptions and losses. not 100% certain however.

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

first, i never said any fund was down 50%. that was an example of how one needs get back to even after a drawdown.

with that said,

been told that JWH holdings have been reduced to 500 million from 2.5 billion 2 years ago.........due to redemptions and losses. not 100% certain however.

surf
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Don't jiggle around. Show me one >$1bln AUM trendfollowing fund that had a "massive drawdown" in 2007. Back your shit up or STFU.
 
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have the trend funds finally made it back to even?
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Take a look at Bill Dunn's track record since inception and get back to me. Over the long run he crushes most out there.

Has VN made it back to even? Oh , thats right....he lost all his investors money....twice.


Stay down for the count Surf, you are out of your league.
 
Quote from makloda:

Don't jiggle around. Show me one >$1bln AUM trendfollowing fund that had a "massive drawdown" in 2007. Back your shit up or STFU.
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I will take 20 bucks on STFU.



Surf is a pair of clown shoes.
 
Quote from EPrado:

Take a look at Bill Dunn's track record since inception and get back to me. Over the long run he crushes most out there.

Has VN made it back to even? Oh , thats right....he lost all his investors money....twice.


Stay down for the count Surf, you are out of your league.
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take a look at it since 2005 and get back to me.

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take a look at it since 2005 and get back to me.

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Here ar Dunn's returns from 2005 until today.



2005 -16.41
2006 3.08
2007 7.60
2008 51.45
2009 .81


Anything else you want to know ?

According to my math I think they are above water.


Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of this thread.
 
Quote from EPrado:

Thats a real good approach on how to rate a fund. Cherry pick a period when it lost money. Why not start in Jan 2008 instead.

You are such a child surf . Really. There is a reason probably .0001% of the people on here actually respect you. It's ridiculous things like this.


Instead of being a cherry picking clown that you are, look back from inception to today. You won't because it proves you blatantly wrong.

It's like seeing a trader who made money 5 days in a row, loses on the 6th, then someone saying "you suck", you lost today.


Stick to writing columns that nobody reads on yahoo.
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i never said dunn or henry suck.

they are great traders and have made fortunes over the years. they have my full respect.

however, their strategies ( at least the ones the public know ) are fatally flawed and will often spell disaster when used by retail traders without the funds and diversification to handle the inevitable giant drawdowns.

by the way, the articles are hitting the YAHOO FINANCE home page on a regular basis, so someone must be reading them...

:D
 
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