Trend Following - Starting with $30,000

If you want to generate an objective performance history of your trading system, you may want to consider putting your trades on Collective2.com. There is a cost but you will have a third party performance statistics for your trades. FWIW, most of the systems on Collective2 are killed by the developers before they are two years old.
 
Quote from AnimatedTrades:

Well, I have no issue with taking losses. I have been trading for a while. Gaps still irritate me though when they blow past my stops.

I think a lot of people hear they should be zen like when trading. So then they pretend like they don't feel anything, and put on a false stoic face. Maybe they really do not let anything effect them. I do feel sometimes though, and I am not going to pretend like I don't.

I think emotions can help you as long as you don't let them take over and make decisions for you.

The people with "stoic faces" know their statistics and one individual trade doesn't matter in the grand scheme of their overall tested and proven plan. Also, you noted that you quit your job to trade full time. This will have an effect on your psych if this is your only way to pay the bills right now. If you have a year or more cushion of living expenses in savings then that will help . Be realistic, approach this with logic , and above all make sure you have a reliable , proven, and tested plan in place. Otherwise you might as well give me your startup capital and let me kick you in the balls.

Good trading to you, I wish you the best!
 
Quote from Zr1Trader:

The people with "stoic faces" know their statistics and one individual trade doesn't matter in the grand scheme of their overall tested and proven plan. Also, you noted that you quit your job to trade full time. This will have an effect on your psych if this is your only way to pay the bills right now. If you have a year or more cushion of living expenses in savings then that will help . Be realistic, approach this with logic , and above all make sure you have a reliable , proven, and tested plan in place. Otherwise you might as well give me your startup capital and let me kick you in the balls.

Good trading to you, I wish you the best!

Thanks, this is good advice. I didn't mean to appear defensive and closed off. I do have a bit of a cushion saved up. I realize trading 30,000 is not enough to live off of.
 
Quote from fjpenney:

If you want to generate an objective performance history of your trading system, you may want to consider putting your trades on Collective2.com. There is a cost but you will have a third party performance statistics for your trades. FWIW, most of the systems on Collective2 are killed by the developers before they are two years old.

Thanks, I will look into it.
 
Stopped out of ERIC long position today.

P/L = -$425
R Multiple = -.92
Days held = 56

Nothing happened out of the ordinary with this trade. Just a loser.
 
Quote from falconview:

Sounds like you want to set profit targets? Your entries seemed okay, but your exits were found wanting.

Profit targets cut off potential trends prematurely. I don't think it is necessarily a bad strategy, but it is the opposite of what trend following is.

Nevertheless, I will keep it in mind. I don't want to tweak my strategy based off of the results from a statistically insignificant number of trades though.
 
It´s your money. But my amateurish experience in trend following shows that using stpp losses in a trend following system doesn´t work. You could use multiple moving averages. A lot depends on the length of trend you are contemplating. The market has to have room to fluctuate. The amount depends on the length of the trend you contemplate. I´m no expert so don´t take my ideas seriously.

You could also use a volatility system, such as the DMI indicator. The trend may continue, but if you exit when the volatility dies, you gain more. You can always reenter on pullbacks on lower volatility and lower prices.
 
The music at the end of the AIMC video just made me laugh my stomach into fits. The 4 note motif "wah wah wah wah..." hahaha

Not laughing at the trade result sorry, just at the how it presented with music at the end.

Great animation. Liked it a lot.

Some ideas. for a loss, maybe a horror end. blood flowing down from the red numbers. or a closing curtain.

for a win, a jackpot sound, like the old days with real coins, not the blipping computer printer paper rubbish today.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Take your 30k and open up a prop account where you can learn edges working now in the market plus get serious leverage. Trend following g is a flawed idea, you will likely be wiped out trying to do it. Look up don bright on this board for info on prop trading among other firms. Good luck! Surf

Ps. If you insist on going at it alone--- read "short term trading strategies that work" by larryconnors and "trade like a hedge fund" by James altucher.

Yet again you are recommending Altucher's book, do you get a commission or something?
That book is filled with failed/irrelevant backtests and nothing really useful.
 
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