Trend Following dying?

Quote from thisisnotsurfer:

Of course we all know these things, 666.

JH and Profile logic are just colorful, often entertaining characters on the internet.

It's obvious that many of the claims made now, and those made in the past are patently ridiculous.

I don't think anyone actually takes them seriously.

TINS
More...

I like this picture of your reconstruction of the past. It is very pleasant for you to have and believe.

I wasn't very clear on the four generations and what it meant. That's too bad, I guess

Your introduction by blanketing issues, is a good one for me to segway into our present viewpoint.

The world is too serious as we all know.

Recently I made up a one pager (landscape) to compare mentored and non mentored learning to become expert in PVT, SCT and SSR. It was 10 minutes in the making.

All people construct the present; reconstruct the past and predict the future. That is just what you posted for yourself relative to what we do.

4 out of 5 people do as you do according to informal non organized polls. Why they vote in polls is fairly easy to explain so it is not necessary so to do.

Where do the three T's fit into the infinite scheme of things. they appear to be traders who have been burned. The worst case is that I am responsible and they are not responsible. So they are taking on responsibilities now.and we get to see this effort daily.

This means that I can do the same. I will, in a nut shell, get trend trading explained for stocks and for commodities. I will note the process involved as well. This will make it clear that there is no overlap between the A people and the B people.

attachment.php
 

Attachments

Quote from Vienna:

I know.. just tried to lower the threshold and increase the temptation by giving suggesting 10:1 odds. That way there is no excuse?

Another offer would be: either win the whole trade amount or- if proven wrong- agree to not post on ET again, and have your IP adress permanently banned.
Of course, this might be inflicting some brain damage on others who now have to endure the negative energy previously absorbed by ET.

Come on now... no financial risk... nothing to lose... a lot to win...
More...


I have seen Profile Logic challenged in this manner and he never accepted. I strongly doubt that JH will accept any challenge either--- in fact, I have never seen any vendor except any kind of challenge.

The Exchange ( a new vendor on elite ) has gone the furthest of anyone I have witnessed by posting actual statements and videos of their called trades in real time. I bet they wont last long, but its a noble effort.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=191946

TINS
 
so it is clear that I wasn't mentored but I did pal around with a crew that were self taught collectively speaking. These were IBM scientists. we accepted the P,V approach and traded stocks.

we "lucked out" as they say. 7 pages into Magee and we were on our way. At the time we did our own plotting. (See Tim Morge as an advocate of hand plotting in 2009).

Being educated in science, doing merit badges ad nauseum and being a problem solver all fit with taking capital out of markets.

My mind became differentiated so I could trade like drivinga car.

the ingredients were: the pattern, nesting of fractals, logging making charts, debriefing and doing the carryover.

today we have considered: the theory of learning, partnership w/market, the mind, and all the documentation. we use the medical model as well.

One of our group began to use the batting order at the beginning of the year. His max capital was 27K at any time. His 19 trades with Schwab made 6k plus and he had one "wash" of a loss of 150 bucks.

Comparitably I started with 300 bucks and put in 50% of my salary. My largest single day net was 5k times larger a generation ago in my generation terminology.

So for 50 some years I have passed this forward.

attachment.php
 

Attachments

I continualy mentor others.

We begin with stocks and add commodities soon after. It makes the pattern more relevant.

attachment.php


The self selecting goes as illustrated.

the tasks in learning are processes where drills are done.

The person making 6K on 27k over six weeks did Initial Analysis of many stocks. He learned how they work in terms of volume and price on a pattern. He traded 7, 6, 5, 4 on the scoring 19 times and made profits 18 times and washed once. He has two things understood: timing and how to pick stocks.

He used the Universe the team built from their IAS sheets. They determined the Weekly Batting order and used it to enter and exit stocks according to a sheet that included the volume signal for entry and exit.
 

Attachments

Quote from jack hershey:

I continualy mentor others.

We begin with stocks and add commodities soon after. It makes the pattern more relevant.



The self selecting goes as illustrated.
More...


Would you like to be a guest on the George Noory radio show?
www.coasttocoastam.com


email the producer, with your secret insights/methods, she will call you back

CoastProducer@aol.com

Mondays evening they often have financial people on, you would be a good fit.

TINS
 
The pattern that generates the scoring and which is an annotation of P, V is simple and can be used by anyyone quite quickly if they drill daily.

Four things emerge as noted
Annotating
doing MADA
differntiating the mind
and timing the markets

to become mentally differentiated the followingare involved:

the pattern
nesting of fractals
logging
debriefing
and dealing with carry over from one trading session to another.
 
Here is the core element of the paradigm as a graphic.

attachment.php


The three moves of the pattern involve volume leading price.

A stock is held through the three moves for the period of days shown in the Days column of the Universe. the entry is on A and it is held for D and A. A is accumulation and D is distribution.

Scoring is shown on the bottom and the cycle has 8 portiions. The pattern is repeated twice.

As a selected stock proceeds the scores of 3, 2, 1 and 0 occur in that order of events. The trader observes.

When the time arrives to enter is determined by volume. The same is true for the time of the exit.
 

Attachments

this is the one pager used to time the trading using lists. Lists have the cummulative volume in a column. Thisis compared to the average volume in a ratio and shown in this Universal table.

There is approximately a 1 1/2 hour lag from the signal to the price action.

attachment.php


after this was constructed a sample (400,000 events) was used to check it out. there were no changes.
 

Attachments

You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top