Trend Following dying?

Quote from jack hershey:

Thank you for covering for T28 and Tzones, the three T's.

I agree with all three of you that it is not possible for you to get involved in taking my calls and trading them to make money.

There is no way any arrangement could be reasonable to any of your B type people. I know that and you are telling the public that.

To you three T's and Dave and Covel and a lot of others, your minds are as you depict.

You have beliefs stuck in your minds as, everyday the market tells the world you can't figure out the market's offer, so you can compare it to what others do.

Mr_Black patiently tells romanus the answers to romanus' questions and romanus slowly shows us where he is confused.(his volume annotations and his faster fractal annotations are incorrect in several ways.)

Mr_Black makes 250 dollars a day on one contract as his daily effort. Mr_Black keeps things simple and very straight.

Romanus asks him which fractal he is using A or B (both have romanus errors) Politely Mr_Black says A+B and adds a smile.

Dave doesn't get it you don't get it; your other T's don't get it. Romanus won't think for himself to figure out his errors.

Put up the print that made 46,500 dollars with 40 contracts over 146 minutes. One trade on one day for one trend. Figure out how it was faked and how the IRS won't agree with you. Four of these trades is a years pay for a doctor. How hard is it for anyone to support a doctor for a year by trading personal capital for 4 days a year and simply donating it to an organized group.

You are beginning to sound like your mind cannot reason at all.

Anyone who can figure out how to build his mind can figure out how to support DR's without Borders.

Do you know what fucked up your mind? Was it taking shortcuts and thinking you are smarter than people who know that they know? You are so stupid you can't listen?

Put up the print of the trade and tell us what is faked on it. You are full of shit every day of the week.

The UA Brain and Mind series stated last night. So we all went to dinner with our spouses and chatted before the lecture. We all had a laugh about you're ceaseless display of stupidity. Here thse people are, all traders with their spouses. Even their spouses know of your antics here. The Centennial Hall was packed to the gillls and everyone was entrauled to learn about their mind's function. They should read your posts for a few years and discover how you got so fucked up.

You are a real piece of work out in the boonies.

Covle and Dave have excuses; they are being bullshitted every day of the week by salesmen from the financial industry. They only get to read stories of what big time traders do in CW.

They should show that print to their buddies and see what gibberish comes back..... lol....

Put a sock in it. Your mind is completely fucked up.

Attached is my carry over for tomorrow; there are additional fully anotated supporting charts (error free).
 

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Quote from jack hershey:

...Attached is my carry over for tomorrow; there are additional fully anotated supporting charts (error free).

Dam cats!!! Our male likes to see how many times he can trip me in the am on the way to the coffee pot... :)

Thanks for sharing
 
the pm chart more than 60 seconds later... lol

The scale is constant so you can glue them together.

romanus, these are not detailed with sub level since it is done on the YM and is a leading indicator.

See if you can't use the pattern for constructing the V and P. You DO know the relationship of Peaks and troughs and the three moves on a trend. Try to consider the order of events and how fractals nest.

I gave you Acceleration on VE (the ve's apply to each fractal too) I gave you the fanning as well. Begin to use this.

To do trading you use MADA and part of that includes decision making and taking timely action.

you saw a translation B a sym B R, a stitch B R and translation R on four bars and you asked "when was the trade? eight minutes of watching the order of events and you blow the turn??? What gives????

1. crappy annotation.

2. Not connecting volume leading price.

3. not having your mind differentiated as to the order of events for cases of adjacent bars.

Take you choice. Move out of this manner of not thinking. Don't do the "eight years of a hazardous journey" self deception some of these new york cowboys are doing.

The gibberish the three T's and covel and dave are seeing is something the trained mind uses with expertise.

Annotate thoroughly. Think as you log. Do you have a log? If so post page 9 from today.

This is better than the cutie of the day... all these dummies are posting their dumb thoughts. (this is NPL for the benfit of the OCD's).

a few more days and we get to see another month of managed money that trend follows posting more losses. WHY? LOL....... think about it.
 

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Quote from Arthur Deco:

That's a bit harsh, Jack. SickSickSick can't help being logical and rational and looking for evidence to support hypotheses. It's the heritage of the last 25 centuries of reason triumphing over sooperstitcheon. ThreeSixes would capitulate in a flash if googling you ever turned up encomia from sweating blood-smeared doctors in Haiti, or a grateful humanitarian citation from Medecins Sans Frontieres. Just anything from somebody other than a nobody would do. But you insist on a modest amomnimnity to shield your amazing accomplishments as a trader from public view. I can understand that. I do the same thing.

yeah whats with dave. I told him I was the one who had the fence taken down at the TB on wall street; doesn't he know how to snag photos off micro fiche/ or call the NPS and tlak to Dave Denny's successor. the files are in that quaint little town where GW survey further west. Not the NPS architecture headquarters. Olive's deddy donated the Egypt Wing to the Met. Deos he know any of the guys who have condos at MOMA????? i bet not. One of them spent 25K for a Janaese tea ceremony, guess where? Do any of these guys pal around with the bards of the 31 members of the Museum's collab.... nwa... too mant decimal points and commas...

Thanks for your readership. I can still remember the smell of stale coffeee (Nx Ox's) down town after recitals at the RC round auditorium.... resaerch anyone... some great stuff financed down there.

Have any of these guys been across the river for tank testing 12 meter designs. remeber Brit Chance testing????? how about John Marshall's stuff. Hey wwhat about Palmer Sparkman?? do they remember when John fisher changed the handicapping to the NYYC. Wow, I seemed to have focuessed on the NYC sailing community. Who was that New Yorker writer who wrecked his two master on the rocks during the tall ships regatta??? his buddy Henry Cooper at the New Yorker married Bill carey the head of the SEC (after he slipped out of he NYU faculty.

Enough socailizing and thinking about why guys from the financial industry just do chicks and cars......

Lets bear down on how the mind gets the job done if it doesn't get fucked up first. we have all these screwed up people; lets see where they went wrong from their past posting.
 
I'd love to know if anyone (with half a mind) takes this guy seriously? Every time I see some remote semblance of lucid thought, he quickly seems to blow it away with yet another incomprehensible ramble....... Just baffles me........

Jason


Quote from jack hershey:

yeah whats with dave. I told him I was the one who had the fence taken down at the TB on wall street; doesn't he know how to snag photos off micro fiche/ or call the NPS and tlak to Dave Denny's successor. the files are in that quaint little town where GW survey further west. Not the NPS architecture headquarters. Olive's deddy donated the Egypt Wing to the Met. Deos he know any of the guys who have condos at MOMA????? i bet not. One of them spent 25K for a Janaese tea ceremony, guess where? Do any of these guys pal around with the bards of the 31 members of the Museum's collab.... nwa... too mant decimal points and commas...

Thanks for your readership. I can still remember the smell of stale coffeee (Nx Ox's) down town after recitals at the RC round auditorium.... resaerch anyone... some great stuff financed down there.

Have any of these guys been across the river for tank testing 12 meter designs. remeber Brit Chance testing????? how about John Marshall's stuff. Hey wwhat about Palmer Sparkman?? do they remember when John fisher changed the handicapping to the NYYC. Wow, I seemed to have focuessed on the NYC sailing community. Who was that New Yorker writer who wrecked his two master on the rocks during the tall ships regatta??? his buddy Henry Cooper at the New Yorker married Bill carey the head of the SEC (after he slipped out of he NYU faculty.

Enough socailizing and thinking about why guys from the financial industry just do chicks and cars......

Lets bear down on how the mind gets the job done if it doesn't get fucked up first. we have all these screwed up people; lets see where they went wrong from their past posting.
 
Quote from Trader666:

Gotcha!

That's NOT the post you made at 1:35. This is (below).

You called it a POSSIBLE short which is conveniently missing from the post at your link. Had your "trade" not worked out, you probably would have said you didn't take it....

I have spent a bit of time in that thread at TL where Mr. Black posted that call, and I have said there what I will say here - I believe Mr. Black trades. I think he is one of the few who frequent these forums who both trades and and at the same time does so profitably.

In that thread, a "potential" or "possible" short and a "potential" or "possible" long is understood by the participants of that thread to pertain to a situation where an order is placed in the market, but that price action has not yet triggered the trade. You "got" nothing other than your own misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "possible" in Mr. Black's post. For you, the word "possible" meant something other than what it means to the participants of that thread.

I am not a JHM trader. I have my own criticisms of the JHM, but my criticisms are not that the approach does not work, but that the manner in which it is typically presented over complicates the learning of the method and causes undue difficulties to those enticed to commit time and money learning to apply it. I also am of the opinion that price is its own indicator and stands on its own, and that the premise that "volume leads price" is an unfounded assertion rather than fact (JHM could drop all reference to volume, and the rely on the PA stuff alone, which is, from what I have seen, solid). I say all this not because I wish to launch an attack here on JHM. Far from it. I say it only because I have come to respect Mr. Black, whoever he or she may be, and I know ET enough to know that my defense of Mr. Black will otherwise quickly be dismissed as coming from another JHM disciple.

Peace to all.

Best Wishes,

Thales
 
Quote from YourMaster:HE GOT CAUGHT FAKING A TRADE... END OF STORY

Typing in all caps will not make you any less wrong.

Mr. Black posted the trade entry before the short entry triggered, as well as his profit target.

If you know how to read a bar chart, and if you understand how chart trader works in Ninjatrader, you are welcome to go back to his post and see for yourself:

http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/208/reading-charts-real-time-6151-391.html#post88224


Anyone who actually trades using Ninjatrader (fewer than one would think), or who is at least familiar with its operations (even fewer), will be able to see that he faked nothing. There was a sell stop in the initial post, and then there was an open position in the above post. I'll not be logging in to this forum to respond anymore to this. I'm not here to defend or detract from JHM. I only posted here to set the record straight concerning Mr. Black's YM trade that supposedly "experienced" trader's are incapable of understanding.

What a place this is ...


Best Wishes,

Thales
 
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